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  1. Cain's 2-run rocket doesn't make the highlights but Braun's "ground ball single" does? Lol, star calls even extend to the editing room.
  2. King Kelly definitely qualified near the end of his career, the bold lettering in honor of his captain's status wasn't a slimming look either
  3. Jesus Montero's line "I wasn't doing nothing, just eating" should at least earn him a spot in the minors on the All Fat dynasty league
  4. I find it amazing how few batters even the best pitchers were striking out in the mid-late 70s and early-mid 80s. Stone '80 is a great example. He threw 250 innings, waked over 100 and only struck out 150! And he won 25 games with a 2.50 ERA! A lot of this had to do with many pitchers relying more on their fastballs. I was only born in '86, but I've watched a lot of old games from the 70s and 80s. Pitchers would just pump sinkers and try to pile up GBs to work deep into games. There were very few guys who had a wide variety of secondary pitches. Guys like Koufax and Nolan Ryan had absolute secondary filth and racked up Ks. But the use of changeups, splits, cutters, etc was far less. A lot of top of the rotation pitchers mainly were fastball-breaking ball, so they were more predictable. Now, most top of the rotation guys have four pitches. Also, hitters were more aggressive, a lot of players had more punch and judy approaches. Now, even most middle infielders have a lot of swing and miss in their game and sell out for power. Working the count was less emphasized back in the day, as was taking BBs. Back in the 70s and 80s, you would see middle of the lineup hitters trying to slap the ball to the opposite field. Now, it's rare to see a player with an approach like that. Reggie Jackson was one of the first of the modern breed of hitter. Drop your shoulder, sell out for power, and don't worry about Ks. Not many hitters had that approach 30-40 years ago. A lot of interesting stuff in this discussion, the current K plague was being talked about a lot last year too. Aside from what mjk mentioned, there was also more small ball in the 80s, guys giving themselves up to move runners along but not actually bunting. Plus there was a psychological factor, unless facing a monster pitcher striking out was for chumps, it's still not cool but it used to be considered worse, only real power hitters like Reggie or Jack Clark were kind of given a pass on striking out, everyone else was expected to put the ball in play no matter what. And Steve Stone is an interesting case, I was a bit too young to remember his big year but it got talked about a lot in the mid 80s cause he flamed out so famously. From what people said Stone had a great curve and that's pretty much all he threw that year, just one hook after another after another. That idea worked great for a season but it blew out his arm and that was the end. (Luck also factored into those Ws, he got tons of run support, just one of those perfect seasons for a pitcher)
  5. since this thread got merged, biggest 1 year wonder I remember was John Tudor in '85 with the Cards. A back of the rotation type before that, injury prone (and a sour attitude) afterwards, but for one season he was almost unhittable: 21-8, 1.93 ERA, .938 WHIP, 14 complete games, 10 shutouts
  6. That's true, he'd had some solid juicer years before that but if remember right in '07 and again at the start of '08 he looked like he was back to being the old Melvin.Guess Fedex had some shipping delays getting those vitamins to the Balt clubhouse around then
  7. Melvin Mora in 2008 with the O's, had one of the hotter streaks ever seen, after a lousy start he went absolutely ballistic in late July/August before getting hurt, but always remember that cause I was cursed at 3B that year and Melvin's insane production as a desperation flier was like a miracle. Another guy I remember was Kaz Matsui when he was reborn in Col in 2007 as a basestealing run scoring speed demon. Lol, then the anal fissures put an end to that
  8. It's cause it's on Fox. I get McCarver/Buck doing the RedSox/Yankee game. That Saturday blackout really sucks. it's like Fox and the league have combined to create maximum torture for everyone no matter what they do, and calling it "Baseball Night in America" is a sick joke, we get less games than any other time of the week.
  9. just fyi, is showing free games for nearly the whole league today, everything except ESPN's 8pm games
  10. The problem with try to deal him after a string of good starts is that almost everyone is sure he'll get hurt so you can never really sell high. I suppose in theory there are owners out there who think he'll stay healthy, or who are having such pitching woes they're desperate for a quality arm even if they think it's shortlived, but just don't see getting a whole lot back for him. Maybe the best trade method might be to use him as a sweetener to get you over the top in another deal, IDK... My thoughts on BA were to get him cheap and roll with him as long as he's healthy, whatever that might be. Figured he'll provide good value as long as he holds up, especially early in the year when some power sps tend to struggle, and if/when he gets hurt then it's goodbye and thank you. (And fwiw I benched him today so I'm not hurting or ticked off about this start, the top of the Tigers order are just too hot right now. I'm giving him a mulligan on this)
  11. K - thanks. Wasn't planning on it, but nice to know I'm not missing anything major. I tried to download that stupid plugin a couple times last year, it was annoying to download and never worked anyway
  12. lol notice no one on the astros has any dirt on their uniforms, those new jerseys look fantastic, never having to run the bases or slide really helps the colors stay crisp, it's like I've got HD tv all of a sudden this game just feels like a tease, hate that Colon taking Strailly's spot away so much
  13. I think of Anderson the way used to think of Rich Harden: either draft him late or snag as a FA, as long as he's healthy he'll be very good but the moment he gets a hangnail drop the dude and don't look back cause that hangnail always seems to lead to surgery. Great value for where get him, guy just gives hitters fits, but one of those guys where I figure anything that get from him at all is bonus cause just can't/won't plan on him staying healthy. Kind of nice having players like that cause don't get overly worked up either way about them, if they're healthy that's awesome and if not oh well, all really hoped for was 2-3 good months anyway (and obviously am not a Oakland fan)
  14. ahh, I knew something was missing from my weekend football experience and here it is, the Wipo thread is reanimated. When those pyknic d*cks hacked RW I bet the WiPo thread hacked them back.
  15. This thread has been amazing for hate, it doesn't even have to be WiPo, Josh Gordon's name came up and people started ripping each other, it's actually weird how much anger happens in here. Every time a reasonable, informed, respectful discussion about WiPo gets going, some errant piece of rage comes randomly sailing across the thread like a Blaine Gabbert pass. Actually been brooding on why there's so much anger and overreaction in this thread-- maybe it's because Powell is such a nebulous figure that he's more like a symbol of something than an actual player so people read extra into the situation. As someone noted a while back, even when an article focused on the guy they still couldn't get his name right, it's like he only partially exists, in the fantasy community he really is more of a myth than reality. I'd bust out "The Golden Bough" and Joseph Campbell's "The Hero's Journey" but am too lazy right now, all remember is that a hero emerges from humble beginnings, goes on an epic quest which includes the underworld, and then a mob of villagers murder him just so they can bring him back to life again. As an ancient scholar (I think it was Steve Sabol) once said, "Myth is what never was but always is" and that's been Wipo for much of this thread, a semi-legendary sounding board who echoes either extravagant hopes or absolute disdain. I hope for Powell, his family, and the guys touting him he makes it big in reality, but then again I kind of hope he never plays. He may or may not be all that as a running back but he's one hell of a myth. Stay golden WiPo. (yeah have had too much coffee, am overtired from an ongoing family crisis, aren't y'all lucky using this thread as a distraction )