jonninho

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  1. 30 minutes ago, cornerback said:

    so, no Friday game matchday 26. because politics said it can Restart the second half of may. thats may 16. full first matchday: Saturday-monday

    https://www.kicker.de/1-bundesliga/spieltag

    Odds are officially back up on sports wagering websites. Man, its soo good to see. I just hope it doesnt backfire and that the season gets completed.

    If there are more idiots present like Kalou.. it will get shut down again real quick.


  2. 45 minutes ago, cornerback said:

    News from Germany.

     

    Bundesliga  will Restart!

     

    when? it is up to the league. every Team will have to go in a time of quarantine before the restart. unclear how long. 7-14 days. it is not the "normal" 14 days because they test more. 

    realistic now is a Restart may 15 or may 22. i expect the league to announce today or tomorrow.

     

     

    Thank God. Atleast some countries have gotten things right and are getting back to normal.


  3. Honest question for everybody.. and while i realize no one here is a scientist (hell, even they dont really know what is happening) we all have opinions.

    For example, i originally expected all states/provinces to place strict lockdown rules and that the population would use common sense and adhere to these rules. This wasnt the case, therefore, all my expectations about seasons resuming shortly after failed to be proven true. I personally now stand in a position where i am questioning what is happening... from 3000 people protests in California, to states not locking down, to re-opening too soon, to small protests in Vancouver and here in Toronto. I get it, economy is drowning, people are broke, families need to be fed and rent needs to be paid, but, at what point do we just play Russian Roulette and throw everyone out there and people (you and i) become content with the fact we may get COVID-19.. we may not get COVID-19.. and get on with lives.. if we ever do confidently? beyond that, where do professional sports leagues stand in terms of just canceing the year? NHL,MLB,NBA all have expressed confidence that seasons will take place.. but, if states like Georgia who have re-opened are experiencing spikes in cases, wouldnt that be the same for otherS? therefore reducing the chances of sports returning? 

    in short, i no longer have a genuine opinion on anything..just a ton of questions.. and am playing the wait and see game at this point.. humans are dangerous to our fellow species and to our planet.

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  4. 39 minutes ago, daynlokki said:

    It’s the difference of being suspended for a year and being suspended a set number of games. If they were suspended for 162 games it would be different. 

    How is it any different when there is no season to date? Even if youre suspended for the 2020 season, and there is 0 games played, therefore no 2020 season existed, how have you served the suspension of a season? Im sorry. but, it doesnt make sense.


  5. 4 hours ago, daynlokki said:

    The point is it seems inevitable someone will test positive. What then? Quarantine anyone he’s been around for 2 weeks? Wouldn’t that shut down the entire league again or at least most of a division? As you said, Von Miller only went outside his house like 4 times. If he got it what’s to stop guys in the MLB getting it with much more exposure? Someone already posted the German soccer league had 3 new infected already. 

    1. How do you know Von Miller has only gone outside 4 times? I banged Shakira last night (or so i say.. you believe me?)

    2. If they are in isolation, how are they going to contract the virus? They will be tested prior to beginning activities and during activities. The entire 'bubble' will be in the same scenario and therefore if no outsiders are entering or players are leaving the bubble, it SHOULD be virtually impossible for anyone within that community to contract the virus.


  6. 17 minutes ago, Low and Away said:

    Another roadblock is looming no matter what plan they come up with. Umpire pay. MLB is proposing deep payroll cuts along with benefits and the umpires are thinking strike. Article was in todays' The Athletic.

    Replacement umpires will be installed if needed, there are plenty through out the country who are qualified and simply waiting for their big break and will do so for whatever wage it is MLB is suggesting they take for this season


  7. 30 minutes ago, tucker26 said:

    They can reportedly take up to 18k tests a day indefinitely. Good news. Hopefully this becomes commonplace nationwide sooner then later. Then we would have 1 less hurdle to clear for a MLB season assuming testing becomes as plentiful as it appears in LA County now. 

    amazing news and big step towards an mlb season under assumption tests arent faulty


  8. 21 minutes ago, TrueToTheBlue said:

    Lol, everyone saw the wild tv ratings for the NFL draft and wants in. I don’t blame them, let’s get sports back!

    lol, you know.. i hadnt actually considered that but you may be on to something. The ratings for a virtual draft were ridiculous. I personally never watch the draft.. i find it boring and a waste of time. I sat there for a few picks untill i could no longer take anymore.. others clearly watched it beyond myself... as the ratings show.. and ofcourse.. the day or two after.. the NBA now has a 'date of hope' for its fans... the NHL now has a 'date of hope' for its fans.. i wouldnt be surprised to see MLB in the next day or two put something out for the public.


  9. 31 minutes ago, 89Topps said:

     

    I know.  It's just gotten tiresome.  Anytime anyone posts an article about the possibility of baseball returning, there's a flood of posts about how far fetched and unrealistic and ridiculous it is.

    I feel like I just need some positive news without the ensuing tidal wave of negative reaction.

    Maybe I just need a break from these threads.

    Yup, i am relatively new on this forum.. and i noticed it immediately.. everyone lives in this negative bubble no matter how 'realistic' they feel it is.. i have noticed i have been checking these forums less and less as the days have gone on.. partly because i have not come across anything new.. but also because i know what to expect when reading the posts. Nothing but mind draining demoralizing negativity. Sad world.

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  10. Just now, Whitecloud0101 said:

    Point of closing life was to provide a tad of relief to healthcare. Mission accomplished. Let er’ buck😂

    You're not wrong.. i think that kind of goes over peoples heads a little bit.. myself included at times. The lockdown wasnt intended to be the cure of the disease.. just to buy time and help with the medical systems. I think we here in N.America have achieved that.. and its time to start opening up again.. slowly.. and with restrictions.. but open..

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  11. 1 hour ago, TrueToTheBlue said:

     

    While I agree with your statement on PPE, I disagree with the general premise of your post. Seniors homes and seniors in general are always going to be the most vulnerable, even if we’re just talking about a bad flu season. Yes, Sweden should have been taking better precautions in senior living homes earlier. But if you nitpick at any countries response to Coronavirus close enough you can find some flaws. I read your article, and I wouldn’t say being lax with senior homes was their strategy, more of an oversight.

     

    Last numbers I saw (I think yesterday) were about 50,000 dead from Coronavirus in the US and 26 million that lost their job because of it. That’s for every 1 death, 520 people that have lost their job due to the shutdown. Think about that ratio for a second. Take a look at these articles.

     

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/23/the-us-economy-has-now-erased-all-job-gains-since-the-great-recession.html

     

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/23/an-unemployment-rate-of-23percent-the-real-jobless-picture-is-coming-together.html

     

    With the early results of the antibody tests coming back showing that 10X as many people have been exposed to the virus as expected, it’s looking like the fatality rate of Covid is more in line with the seasonal flu. Of the number of CONFIRMED cases in NYC, I think I saw 95.1% of the deaths were people older than 45. Most were elderly and/or had underlying conditions. Not to sound insensitive, but many of these elderly or immune compromised people may have died from something else in the not so distant future anyway. Yet the economic sacrifices of the masses (even most people that aren’t losing their job are getting crushed) have been so severe. Despite some of the anecdotal stories you hear, the virus is not life threatening to the vast vast majority of the population. There’s got to be more balance here.

     

    I think you’ve got to start opening things up soon, while taking precautions for the elderly and vulnerable. Stores opening up an hour early and allowing only the elderly in as we’re seeing now for example. You’ve got to continue opening more and more, so long as you don’t run the risk of overwhelming the health system and everyone who needs treatment can continue to get it.

     

    Sweden, while their handling of the crisis may not have been perfect, has been able to keep their economy open without overrunning their healthcare system. To me that makes it, generally speaking, a success.

    Fully agree.. things need to start opening up. End of story.

    I agree with your thought process in the sense that stores can be open 1 hour more a day.. small steps.. but steps nonetheless. For example, one of our big grocery store chains here in Canada will be extending their hours starting April 26th. Its only a small step.. but.. it kinda looks like we will start getting the economy up and running again.


  12. 24 minutes ago, Backdoor Slider said:

    Rangers, Astros, Diamondbacks...I mean, MLB plays in this summer heat every year. I don’t know why you continue to harp on the weather as if it’s some sticking point. 

    I personally think the best decision to get baseball back and reduce the chance of players getting infected would be to host teams in all 3 states. Whether that is 2 traiditonal divisions in each state or the re-aligned divisions in each state. Few days off at certain parts in season. Rotate states. Ensure everything is sanitzed accordingly along with time between swap of teams allowing the disease to die naturally on whatever surface it may have remained on.

    BTW, i totally agree with you.. i dont get why the heat is being discussed by some users as if MLB teams dont play in that heat every summer anyways..

    1 hour ago, wahoos1 said:

    I understand the need for testing, but how often do you test? You do an initial test then I think daily temperature checks and weekly virus tests, that’s a lot of tests. I don’t think this will happen til everyday factory workers, health care workers, restaurant workers etc. can be tested and allowed to go back to work. Until people are allowed to go back to work and get the economy going, I don’t think there will be any professional sports. Some how golf plans to restart mid June, don’t know what their plan is for testing but it will not be well received if they are tested to play golf and people can’t return to work.

    Agreed. Untill tests are more widely available.. i dont see sports being back either if those tests are being taken away from the public.

    I really dont get or understand how the U.S.A is so far behind in testing and its availability.

    1 minute ago, Low and Away said:

    Rangers starting this summer, Astros, Diamondbacks, Marlins, and Rays all will be playing in air conditioned stadiums.

    Yup. 5 MLB calibre stadiums ready for use. 3 States. 3 games per stadium a day. 8-9am... 3-4pm... 8-10pm... 6 teams per stadium per day. 30 teams accounted for on a daily basis in temperature controlled enviornments.

    Again, i really believe testing is the only thing stopping this thing from full steam ahead.


  13. 40 minutes ago, The Big Bat Theory said:

    The latest spitballing as MLB shows it has no real concrete plans but keeps throwing mud against walls:

    Yeah bake them to death in the Texas heat.  That's the ticket.

    I think the operative word above is "discussing."  It is a LONG way from discussing to concrete plans and a longer way from concrete plans to concrete action.  In other words MLB doesn't have a clue.  And how could they.  But to pretend as if they do and that they are seriously trying to set-up crazy plans is ridiculous.  Just be honest and say you are just involved in flights of imagination at this point.  Good that you are but to hint this stuff is going to actually happen let alone soon is disinformation.

    There are ways around the heat... early morning games.. or games played in the evening.. combined with both the stadiums of the Astros and the Rangers new ball parks which SHOULD be able to host 2-3 games each per day, with teams rotating between ball parks to ensure fair play and that all teams get the benefit of retractable roofs and i dont see this being a problem.

    IMO, the only thing stopping the MLB from actually moving forward with plans is the lack of testing in the U.S. which to me in crazy when you guys have somebody like Trump talk openly about how he misses sports and wants them back, but surely has not done enough to ensure that you guys have enough testing kits to make the return of sport an actuality.


  14. 18 minutes ago, Dr. Whom said:

    Why do we need baseball this year though?

     

    if normal people can’t work but entertainment can would probably cause more protests. The economic impact of shutting down baseball is minimal if the local market economies do not benefit. If players and owners hit hard times, they can collect unemployment if needed. Everyone sacrifice remember?

     

    Honestly, i get where you are coming from.. but i truly believe given the normal persons situation with these stay at home orders... that distraction of sport would help minimize the mental difficulties some people may be going through. We dont 'need' it.. but we need it. 

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  15. 27 minutes ago, tonycpsu said:

    IF...IFFFFFFF cases do not spike upwards dramatically in the states of Arizona, Texas, and i would like to say Florida.. but their situation does concern me more than others... i could certainly see this 3 state idea working which contains 5 major league ball parks with domes/retractable roofs proceeding forward. It would certainly be interesting to see who MLB determines to play where and the division set up. IMO, it would make sense for MLB to place 2 divisions per state, and when they have played whatever amount of games allocated to within that division, they take a few days break and relocate to another state to play their share of games within the other division. For example:

    AL EAST. Blue Jays play each division team 20 times (random numbers).. accounts for 80 games = half the season. Situated in Arizona. 80 games played. Move to Texas to play AL Central for 20 games. Just an idea. Dont see why it wouldnt work, though. Break inbetween gives teams/staff to clear out.. sanitze facilities.. time for the disease to die on its own on whatever surface.

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  16. 3 hours ago, cornerback said:

    first-italy, spain, france will take longer. france for example expanded their stay at home orders til may 15th. germany has by FAR the most ICU beds/1000. compared to them. germany 8 ICU beds/1000- USA ❤️ ICU beds/1000. france and the others are in between. thats why our death numbers are so low. same goes for testing infrastructure.

    and there is the problem. germany is VERY organized down to the local goverments (region-city-town level) regarding testing, tracing, labs, manpower, funding. thats not the case in the other countries. they dont have the infrastructure, the amount of labs, the manpower. so its difficult to copy germany on the fly.

    could we do more? I think so. on the other hand we are taking in patients from other countries. espacially from france, netherlands, italy and spain. our system allows that. is it enough? I dont know. its a tricky question, because you dont know how the numbers will develop when you start to reopen. but the first peak is over in most of europe. so this should not be the biggest problem in the future.

    most critic I hear is regarding money. who pays for this after its over? its pretty clear that espacially italy and spain will need massive help. so on EU level there is much discussion over debt and who pays for it. germany, netherlands and other northern countries doesnt want to vouch for debt in the southern countries. this will be a big problem for the EU in general. to find that compromise. but thats nothing new. for decades its that way. they ll figure it out. or something out....

     

    I was reading on Portuguese newspaper 'Abola' that the 1st two divisions of German football have been given the green light to resume behind closed doors on May 9th.

    In other football news, Sporting CP returned to training today, with only a few players at any given time (exactly how Germany started training again).. extending the distance to a full 10 metres between players. They brought their own fluids. Did not use change rooms. Came dressed and left straight to their car after practice.

    We are slowly seeing light at the end of the tunnel.

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  17. 22 minutes ago, cornerback said:

    News from Germany.

    we reopened small businesses today. next week schools will continue for students to graduate (because they are older and should be able to follow distancing rules). after 2 weeks reevaluation of the Situation and if positive, reopen will continue. beaches and crowded places are closed and will be closed longer. personal opinion: you are flat out crazy to reopen beaches in your Situation. someone who did this here, political Career would be over immediatly.

     

    for Sports (Soccer first, Bundesliga, only Soccer really matters for germans). talks ongoing. Looks like 9th may or a week later they will try (if the reevaluation in 2 weeks brings positive results). stands empty. Minimum People involved. Players tested often. the DFL is working out concepts. I know from Bayern munich they are testing their Players 3 times a week the past weeks. Training ground they expanded to Groups of seven today (strikers-midfield-defenders).

     

    small steps. but there is hope for Soccer mid may!

    Love this update! keep them coming! i can only hope the rest of Europe is shortly behind Germany in this moment and that the likes of Italy, France, Portugal, Spain and the rest can get their economies restarted in the near future.

    Question for you - How do you feel about the German government taking heat from its peers through out Europe for not helping the other nations enough? Or atleast what the other nations perceive as enough? What i am getting at is there is talk that Germany, who is well ahead of everybody else in terms of testing and protocol are not providing other countries with instruction on how they accomplished such a feat? and it could be looked at as leaving their peers left out to dry. I personally am not in the loop as much as you would be considering your place of residence, which is why i am genuinely asking for your opinion on the matter. Could Germany be doing more to help other countries with their outbreaks?


  18. 46 minutes ago, brockpapersizer said:

     

    Not one team can force any of their players to play even when there is no global pandemic going on. 

    Thats true, but the players will run the risk of loosing their $ and when considering the life styles many of them are accustomed to and/or built.. a big chunk of $ lost is probably not in the cards..


  19. 1 hour ago, Backdoor Slider said:

    Yeah crazy ay. Shucks, you nice folks up north aren’t protesting, despite being locked down for even less time. Just eating those poutines, amirite?!?! So much more civilized than your southern neighbors! 
     

    https://www.freshdaily.ca/news/2020/04/people-canada-are-gathering-streets-protest-lockdown/

    That happened a week ago... there was a total of like 14 people there.. and it has since been the only documented protest.. we have been in this mode of quarantine for probably over a month now..

    Some people in specific states have been in a 3 week qurantine and already protesting risking the lives of many.. and i must say those protests are significantly larger..

    But yeah.. i would tend to agree with you.. and i say this out of respect, but, Canadians for the most part are more civilized.. just look at your news stations.. your government is throwing fists at each other.. your president is blatantly lying to the masses on a daily basis.. there is no unity among states what so ever.. its the complete opposite of civilized..
     

    Now, i must acknowledge, there are certainly dumb Canadians and that isnt even a debate.. and there are certainly plenty of well educated well mannered very civilized Americans..

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  20. 22 minutes ago, brockpapersizer said:

     

    I don't think the Florida not playing was necessarily in regards to those 2 teams, but rather have of all the teams playing Florida as part of a rumored AZ/FL plan.  It seems like we might be at all AZ or bust for 2020.

    That appears to be what the situation is at the moment. Atleast to start the season off.

    Truthfully, though some players have suggested they are not interested in the idea, i dont think they really have a say... They have a contract to play baseball, and where ever that might be, they must oblige to that contract. I think the owners will be on board with the idea (money obviously).. and the PA will be on board if enough players are willing to play (which there will be).. and that kinda forces all those who arent interested to kinda suck it up and get to AZ to play ball.. atleast IMO.