SlipperyMoose

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  1. C’est terrible! What’s with the dried up rebounds? That’s the bit I can’t reconcile.
  2. Ha! Me too, comrade. For anyone trying get Ayton PF eligibility in another provider like Yahoo or Fantrax, free to copy and paste the points below: I) Ayton is listed as the starting PF in the Suns’ official game notes (Baynes at C): https://www.nba.com/gamenotes/suns.pdf II) Ayton is listed as starting PF on ESPN’s depth charts (Baynes at C): https://www.espn.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/phx and “Starting F” on his splits page: https://www.espn.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/4278129/deandre-ayton III) Multiple Phoenix beat writers affirm Ayton’s status at the starting PF: A) "This was evident last night when Deandre Ayton started at power forward along side Aron Baynes who maintained his well-earned role as the team’s starting center" https://valleyofthesuns.com/2020/01/04/phoenix-suns-experiment-rotation-beat-new-york-knicks/ “Defensively, Ayton has the foot quickness to guard bigs on the perimeter while Baynes can battle post-oriented power players.” https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2020/1/3/21049071/phoenix-suns-update-ayton-getting-the-start-at-4-next-to-baynes IV) Coach Monty Williams on starting Ayton at the 4: “I had been thinking about it, but James kind of pushed me in the corner with DA (Ayton) at forward with his ability to not just dive, but pick-and-pop and do things a lot of fours can do.” https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2020/01/04/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-aron-baynes-strong-debut-starting-together/2813543001/ Conclusion Again, I understand the Fantasy Team has the final say on positions. But when your "final say" stands in opposition to the NBA, ESPN, the Suns, official game notes, multiple Phoenix beat writers, and coach Monty Williams himself, it’s probably time for an update. Let’s take the time to make this right. Thanks!
  3. Love that attitude! If y’all have more positional eligibility requests, feel free to post them on this expanded thread. Here, we can crowd-source our way to the best arguments with which to besiege the ESPN team.
  4. I’m...absolutely speechless. I’d like to thank God, my family... You guys were huge. Thanks for your role in stirring ESPN from their slumber of indifference. New to this forum as of last week and so glad I came—such a cool community here.
  5. I’m beginning to suspect the same, haha. Still haven’t heard back from the team—gonna try to nudge them this afternoon. Feel free to do the same to put some pressure on them.
  6. Appreciate the daps, ROTY. Didn’t know ESPN updated Leonard to C/PF month ago. That’s stunning: the pettiness of ignoring 99% of the evidence to mold the facts to their fact-starved logic. “We have but two choices: Either we conform our desires to the truth, or we conform the truth to our desires.” -Scottish theologian Os Guinness
  7. Exactly! Thank you. This point become the foundation of my third counterargument: Faulty Assumption 3: Is the best rebounder in a frontcourt automatically the starting center? Nope. On 13 teams (nearly half of the NBA), the starting PF averages more rebounds than his starting center: Collins, Tatum, Love, Porzingis, Draymond, Sabonis, Harrell, Davis, Giannis, Randle, Bagley, Aldridge, and Siakam Boards and blocks may have been “center stats” a decade ago. But in an era of stretch fives and board-happy guards, it’s superficial to conclude these stats tell us who’s most “center” on a team. Bam may lead the team in these categories, but it’s quite the leap to say this automatically makes him the center, especially as we consider the overwhelming evidence provided by more reliable metrics. (You can read the whole rebuttal here) Thanks again!
  8. That’s a top-tier rant, Bugs—‘twas a cathartic screed that did my soul good. I also appreciate your points—incorporated those into my reply to the ESPN tech team: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q_7ekhWFpbGbLYqkOV3CWhmLq3_9FUaxXOoKhPT2np8/edit?usp=sharing
  9. Appreciate the insight, Quazza. I included that bit in my reply: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q_7ekhWFpbGbLYqkOV3CWhmLq3_9FUaxXOoKhPT2np8/edit?usp=sharing And now we wait!
  10. Organized their reply into three points. There’s some obvious gaps in their arguments. Anyone interested in helping me refute these? Putting together a rebuttal tonight—would love to include any counterpoints from this fine community of basketball minds.
  11. We’ve got movement, boys! The request was “escalated” in the ESPN system, and I finally got a message from the decision-makers themselves. This comes via Brian in customer care: “I have seen this was escalated, and this is from our tech team: ’‘Bam Adebayo played PF last season because Hassan Whiteside (a clear C) was there. This season, Whiteside is gone, and Bam is the only legit rim-protector and rebounder in the frontcourt, so we’re having a difficult time seeing a case that when, say, Meyers Leonard or Kelly Olynyk are on the floor, they would be more “center” than Bam. I mean, those guys are basically averaging fewer rebounds and blocks than Jimmy Butler (SG/SF) and Justise Winslow (PG/SF). Furthermore, Leonard (0.9 3PG) and Olynyk (1.8 3PG) spend far more time outside of the lane than Bam (0.1 3PG). They seem like the PFs and Bam seems like the C’Our team says they will still reconsider putting the C position for Bam, but at this time, it is staying as is. I hope this clears things up.”
  12. Okay, got a partial answer to this from “Stephen” at customer care. Here’s what he had to say: “The team here has a committee that they review the positions and at the moment they choose to deny it, they do constantly review positions so it maybe updated in the future with those positions but no guarantee at the moment if and when that would happen. As Darren mentioned they don't use those sites to determine position eligibility. Here is how they do it every year: Before each season begins, our system receives an updated report that details every fantasy basketball player with their PRIMARY position heading into the new season. This includes rookies as well as veterans. The listed primary positions are fixed and will not change for the duration of the season. The Fantasy Basketball League Office uses several subjective criteria to determine additional eligibility. Among those are: -How often the player touches the ball -Where the player's shots usually come from -Defensive assignments -Who else is on the floor when the player is in the game -Where the player is usually positioned in the offensive sets The final decision is always left to the League Office. Any official designations made by the NBA or any other organization will be taken into consideration, but may not result in expanded eligibility for a player. Regards, Stephen ESPN Customer Care
  13. Freaked out a bit---hand to my heart, I had mashed potatoes in my mouth as I read your reply.
  14. " A meaningful policy for correcting significant errors will engender trust with viewers, listeners and readers. ESPN's willingness to correct mistakes, as necessary, is directly proportional to our credibility with our audiences" Charles, if that's on their website, what you say can't be true! 🌝 It may very well the sunk-cost fallacy, but I'm not ready to give up hope!
  15. You have some solid ground for the Leonard PF argument: 1) On the ESPN depth charts, Leonard is listed the 5th PF in the Clippers rotation: https://www.espn.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/lac 2) Played 15% of his minutes at PF according to https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01.html#all_pbp 3) Reviewing minutes played in different Iineups could help as well: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01/lineups/2020 The George SG argument could be a little harder to make; ESPN does acknowledge that he started 4 games as a "G" (scroll down to "position"): https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01/lineups/2020 Best of luck, mate!