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I feel like there's a lot of questions in this thread and few answers.

 

Anthony Swarzak?

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9 minutes ago, 2ndCitySox said:

I feel like there's a lot of questions in this thread and few answers.

 

Anthony Swarzak?

If you are looking for Crystal Ball Predictions, wrong thread.

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26 minutes ago, 2ndCitySox said:

I feel like there's a lot of questions in this thread and few answers.

 

Anthony Swarzak?

having a really good season, but his hr/fb @ 3% is likely unsustainable, especially on the southside of chicago. he'll give you decent k rate, and have a respectable ERA and WHIP, but personally i'm expecting regression from his current line in both categories. his xFIP and SIERA are 4.0 and 3.6 respectively, while his ERA is a shiny 2.94.

not the worst RP you could find, but i think there are likely better.. obviously it's league dependant though

edit: just looked at his June stats and regression may have already begun. since June 1st -- 3.86 ERA, 5.79 K/9, 1.82 WHIP.. probably not what you're looking for in a midseason pickup.

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rubby de la rosa activated & was hittin' 99 last night

 

1 batter, 1 strikeout. good ratio

 

see how his role goes

 

if y'all still want ideas from me after hoyt and wandy have both turned tail and run

 

 

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On 6/21/2017 at 10:14 AM, mtw02 said:

Devenski has really fallen off a cliff, probably from over use.  Sad.  But his k/9 has dropped a ton this past 3-4 weeks.  Not sure what to make of him going forward.  

 

He had a poor May by his standards (average by normal pitcher standards) but he is showing signs of returning to form. In 11 June appearances he has a 1.54 ERA and a WHIP of 0.69. His K/9 is 10.8, up from May, but well below the 17.3 rate he posted in the first month. Encouragingly he has 5 Ks in his last 2 innings (he had only 3 in his previous 6 appearances).

 

I suspect the early season K/9 was a bit of a fluke. Last year his K/9 as a reliever was 8.9. A likely scenario is he continues to post elite ratios (he had an ERA of 1.61 and WHIP of .81 as a RP last year) and his K/9 rate may settle in in the 11-12 range. He still has plenty of value with that type of production and the wins and saves he produces due to his unique usage (and even more value in a holds league) so I am holding him but don't expect what we saw in April ROS. 

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18 hours ago, the real donny baseball said:

 

 

If you're in a 3 team league where your Mom and Grammy take the summer off and he's still available you should add him.

 

Kahnle was only 15 % own last week on Yahoo. I didn't asked about 99% Jansen

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17 hours ago, Topgun said:

If you are looking for Crystal Ball Predictions, wrong thread.

 

I actually think it's relatively easy to forecast near term performance for relievers. It's just no one invests the time when starting pitching, hitting, and chasing saves are prioritized.

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3 hours ago, the real donny baseball said:

Point taken,but this thread is pretty much 1% ers.

 

that's not like a rule though. it's just the middle reliever thread. kahnle's a middle reliever

 

how owned a guy is all depends on the league particulars

 

like yeah, it's funny when we spend three pages talking about a guy and then a month later somebody comes in and drops his name like they're the first person to discover him

 

but that's messageboards for you

 

it's a free country, people can talk about kahnle

 

 

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22 minutes ago, wily mo said:

 

that's not like a rule though. it's just the middle reliever thread. kahnle's a middle reliever

 

how owned a guy is all depends on the league particulars

 

like yeah, it's funny when we spend three pages talking about a guy and then a month later somebody comes in and drops his name like they're the first person to discover him

 

but that's messageboards for you

 

it's a free country, people can talk about kahnle

 

 

 

 

Yeah,I'd almost forgotten about Kahnle,I only snagged him in one league.He lasted what,maybe 2 or 3 weeks longer than devenski?I think he was gone everywhere by the end of week 4.

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Not a great Sunday for Ottavino and McGee. McGee in fact hasn't been great roughly the last 2 weeks. Hasn't really been overused but trotting him out there for more than an inning tonight was obviously a mistake.

 

These 2 Rockies relievers a hold for most formats still (where applicable)?

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Chad Green anyone? Just picked him up in my deep dynasty league. 

 

Clippard has been struggling lately and Closermonkey thinks Greene could run away with the 7th inning in front of Betances/Chapman. He is also SP/RP eligible in Yahoo. Great ratios so far, 2.10 ERA, .79 WHIP, 10.52 K/9.

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On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 3:02 AM, wily mo said:

rubby de la rosa activated & was hittin' 99 last night

 

1 batter, 1 strikeout. good ratio

 

see how his role goes

 

if y'all still want ideas from me after hoyt and wandy have both turned tail and run

 

 

 

Like his stuff upside in a relief role...

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On 6/25/2017 at 3:02 AM, wily mo said:

rubby de la rosa activated & was hittin' 99 last night

 

1 batter, 1 strikeout. good ratio

 

see how his role goes

 

if y'all still want ideas from me after hoyt and wandy have both turned tail and run

 

 

 

This De La Rosa reliever has been used in 3 out of the last 4 days and in key situations and having earned a hold already.  It's likely just coincidental right out of the shoot like that but he's been quite dominant and everyone knows what kind of stuff he has.  In any event, just a single hit allowed in 2 1/3 innings with five out of seven outs coming via the strikeout.   That has to be trending in the right direction.

For teams that utilizes SP for holds this may be a guy of major interest...           

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1 hour ago, knuckleheads said:

 

This De La Rosa reliever has been used in 3 out of the last 4 days and in key situations and having earned a hold already.  It's likely just coincidental right out of the shoot like that but he's been quite dominant and everyone knows what kind of stuff he has.  In any event, just a single hit allowed in 2 1/3 innings with five out of seven outs coming via the strikeout.   That has to be trending in the right direction.

For teams that utilizes SP for holds this may be a guy of major interest...           

 

This is exactly what this thread is for.

 

Just curious knuckleheads, is there any reason you have such a keen interest in Rubby?

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2 minutes ago, My Dinner With Andre said:

 

This is exactly what this thread is for.

 

Just curious knuckleheads, if there any reason you have such a keen interest in Rubby?

Pardon my lack of sources, but I remember him on the Red Sox as a SP with big stuff but couldn't put it all together enough to remain a SP. It looks like his stuff is still there and it should be easier to manage as a reliever.

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1 hour ago, My Dinner With Andre said:

 

This is exactly what this thread is for.

 

Just curious knuckleheads, is there any reason you have such a keen interest in Rubby?

 

Yeah I guess I should state that my interest  in guys like Rubby is fairly unique because I've ditched both wins and K's for saves and holds (whip and era up for grabs) in a head to head league.  I think a few other guys on here tinker with this strategy but likely De La Rosa isn't going to be more than a watch at this time for 99 percent of the leagues out there.  Personally, I utilize all SP pretty much only for holds as they're not as easy to come by for saves.  Thus anytime a former starter with good stuff becomes a relief pitcher I take note of it.    

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2 hours ago, My Dinner With Andre said:

 

This is exactly what this thread is for.

 

Just curious knuckleheads, is there any reason you have such a keen interest in Rubby?

Because back when he was a struggling starter. The talk always was how great he could be as a RP with his bigtime fastball/Slider Combo

 

+ SP to RP transition run smoother for vets a lot of times because they end up having a better grasp behind pitch sequencing nuances from being a  MLB starter. 

 

Not all SP to RP transition fo vets works out obviously..but this one comes from a guy who is going to throw mid to upper 90s + a solid Slider + ditch below average change up that has a career .280 BA/.497 SLUG against.  The tick in velo and focus on 1 inning at a time should in theory have his fastball play up better than he was a starter and his Silder was always good.

 

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Boxberger is likely back on Thurs. Been a long road back for him. Is he viewed as an must-add for relievers? There's lot of RHP arms in the Rays bullpen, so it might be tough to get much out of him initially until he's into a higher-leverage situation.

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I would just like too thank Mr. Betances for blowing up my ratios yesterday and walking the ball park this year.. O what has happened to this dominant rp, his control is gone.. 

 

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4 minutes ago, chud12 said:

I would just like too thank Mr. Betances for blowing up my ratios yesterday and walking the ball park this year.. O what has happened to this dominant rp, his control is gone.. 

 

Dos Equis Gifs to the World  no facepalm smh smdh GIF

 

think he wants the closers gig back..lol

while chaps was on the shelf, he gave up ZERO runs over 10 innings and struck out 19

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1 minute ago, ASHLANDARROWS1992 said:

 

think he wants the closers gig back..lol

while chaps was on the shelf, he gave up ZERO runs over 10 innings and struck out 19

 

It's weird to see his whip at 1.35 his late in the year and his walk rats sky high. 

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