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Tyler Johnson 2017-2018 Season Outlook

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What are we feeling here with one half of the Brothers Johnson?

 

He put up a tidy 13.7 ppg 4rpg 3.2 apg 1.3 3PM 1.2 STL 0.6 BLK .433 FG% .768 FT% 1.2 TO in 29.8 MPG

 

All things considered, the Heat faced some real injuries last season which would have help TJ get almost 30 mpg...with their backcourt healthy now (minus McGruder) do we think he approaches these minutes and numbers again?

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Last year he was ranked 82nd according to bbm.

 

Even if he gets less minutes, I think (hope) he can still produce top 100-120 value. 

 

FWIW, I got him at 133 in 16 teamer.

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It's interesting I'm looking at the minutes distribution from last season and trying to figure out how he would not get the same? Maybe Jrich playing more will take some from TJ? Perhaps the return of Winslow also could be a factor?

 

Rk   Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS/G
1 Justise Winslow 20 18 15 34.7 4.4 12.5 .356 0.4 1.9 .200 4.1 10.6 .384 .371 1.6 2.6 .617 1.3 3.9 5.2 3.7 1.4 0.3 1.8 2.9 10.9
2 Goran Dragic 30 73 73 33.7 7.3 15.4 .475 1.6 4.0 .405 5.7 11.4 .499 .527 4.1 5.2 .790 0.8 3.0 3.8 5.8 1.2 0.2 2.9 2.7 20.3
3 Hassan Whiteside 27 77 77 32.6 7.0 12.6 .557 0.0 0.0   7.0 12.6 .557 .557 2.9 4.6 .628 3.8 10.3 14.1 0.7 0.7 2.1 2.0 2.9 17.0
4 Josh Richardson 23 53 34 30.5 3.8 9.7 .394 1.4 4.3 .330 2.4 5.4 .444 .467 1.1 1.5 .779 0.7 2.5 3.2 2.6 1.1 0.7 1.2 2.5 10.2
5 Dion Waiters 25 46 43 30.1 6.1 14.4 .424 1.8 4.7 .395 4.3 9.7 .438 .488 1.8 2.8 .646 0.4 2.9 3.3 4.3 0.9 0.4 2.2 2.1 15.8
6 Tyler Johnson 24 73 0 29.8 4.9 11.3 .433 1.3 3.4 .372 3.6 7.9 .460 .490 2.7 3.5 .768 0.7 3.3 4.0 3.2 1.2 0.6 1.2 2.4 13.7
7 James Johnson 29 76 5 27.4 4.8 10.1 .479 1.1 3.4 .340 3.7 6.8 .548 .535 2.0 2.8 .707 0.9 4.1 4.9 3.6 1.0 1.1 2.3 2.6 12.8
8 Rodney McGruder 25 78 65 25.2 2.4 5.9 .413 0.9 2.8 .332 1.5 3.1 .488 .492 0.6 0.9 .620 1.2 2.1 3.3 1.6 0.6 0.2 0.7 1.8 6.4
9 Wayne Ellington 29 62 13 24.2 3.7 9.0 .416 2.4 6.4 .378 1.3 2.6 .509 .550 0.6 0.7 .860 0.3 1.8 2.1 1.1 0.6 0.1 0.5 1.1 10.5
10 Josh McRoberts 29 22 14 17.3 2.0 5.4 .373 0.6 1.4 .419 1.4 4.0 .356 .428 0.3 0.4 .667 1.0 2.3 3.4 2.3 0.5 0.2 1.0 1.4 4.9
11 Luke Babbitt 27 68 55 15.7 1.7 4.1 .402 1.3 3.1 .414 0.4 1.0 .366 .557 0.2 0.2 .733 0.2 1.9 2.1 0.5 0.3 0.2 0.4 1.7 4.8
12 Derrick Williams 25 25 11 15.1 2.2 5.5 .394 0.4 1.8 .200 1.8 3.7 .489 .427 1.2 2.0 .620 0.6 2.3 2.9 0.6 0.4 0.2 0.6 1.3 5.9
13 Willie Reed 26 71 5 14.5 2.3 4.0 .568 0.0 0.1 .250 2.3 4.0 .573 .570 0.7 1.2 .557 1.8 2.9 4.7 0.4 0.3 0.7 0.4 1.9 5.3
14 Okaro White 24 35 0 13.5 0.9 2.5 .379 0.3 1.0 .353 0.6 1.5 .396 .448 0.6 0.6 .909 0.7 1.6 2.3 0.6 0.3 0.3 0.5 1.5 2.8
15 Udonis Haslem 36 16 0 8.1 0.7 1.4 .478 0.0 0.2 .000 0.7 1.3 .550 .478 0.6 0.9 .600 0.5 1.8 2.3 0.4 0.4 0.1 0.5 1.4 1.9

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Looks like Waiters' ankle is becoming a concern again.  Will Tyler Johnson get the lion's share of extra minutes if Waiters goes down?  Does it make him rosterable in 12 teamers?

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Imo this is just a slow start. His numbers so far are way off his career averages, and he's with the same team with stable minutes and as mentioned, Waiters ankle issues are flaring up. I'd be buying stock in TJ right now, not overvaluing him, but the last 3 years have shown us that he's way better than this. In my opinion he'll definitely be rosterable soon.

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18 pts and 3 threes with 1 stl and 1 blk and it's only the end of the 3rd. Could be the start of his bounceback. Notable that JRich couldn't make a shot though. 

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Dragic/waiters/J Rich not the most durable guys. So it's not a bad idea to stash him on the bench, or handcuff him to any of the above. 

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5 hours ago, escanorvailfriks said:

Watching the Suns Heat game. Tyler is out because of concussion. And rotoworld does not have any blurb.

Tyler Johnson (illness) will not play against the Suns on Wednesday.

Johnson said he would play, but the team announces he won't be out there with plenty of time to share. With him out, there could be more minutes available for Goran Dragic, Dion Waiters and Josh Richardson, but Wayne Ellington should also get more run. It's also possible Richardson moves to a bench role, but he'll be getting big minutes tonight.

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6 hours ago, DrGonzo said:

Tyler Johnson (illness) will not play against the Suns on Wednesday.

Johnson said he would play, but the team announces he won't be out there with plenty of time to share. With him out, there could be more minutes available for Goran Dragic, Dion Waiters and Josh Richardson, but Wayne Ellington should also get more run. It's also possible Richardson moves to a bench role, but he'll be getting big minutes tonight.

 

I am confused too. I wish what I saw is wrong. Since that will be minimum of 2 weeks.

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2 minutes ago, trusthaprocess said:

Is he worth taking a flier on in the wake of the John Wall injury?

 

??? wrong place bro?

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45 minutes ago, trusthaprocess said:

I asked in the AC thread already. 

 

T. Johnson and J. Wall related how?

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10 minutes ago, RCRanger03 said:

Did I miss Wall getting traded to Miami or Johnson traded to Wash?

No, I'm just a Wall owner scrambling to replace him, and I thought about Tyler Johnson. I know it's an AC thread question, but this thread has next to no activity at all haha

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This dude is really struggling with consistency. Would have dropped already if it wasn't for the healthy dose of stocks. 

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On 11/28/2017 at 8:07 PM, flat_eric said:

This dude is really struggling with consistency. Would have dropped already if it wasn't for the healthy dose of stocks. 

 

Really confused as to why myself. In his 4 year career with the Heat he's never shot this bad.. 42% (his lowest) isn't amazing but it's nowhere close to 35% from the field..

Every single year prior he shot above 37% from three, but is now shooting only 30%..add to that his FT% is off the charts in comparison (95% compared to his career averages of 78%)

And the minutes are there, 27 mpg is definitely enough for some decent lines.. I'm not sure whether this will be a season-long shooting slump like I've seen before, or whether he'll bounce back later, but I think these averages are extremely uncharacteristic of TJ, especially for a shooter who can hit 9.5 out of 10 of his free throw attempts this year. 

At least, as you said, stocks are still there. He's always been a decent rebounder and shotblocker for his position.

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On 12/1/2017 at 2:56 AM, s-kayos said:

 

Really confused as to why myself. In his 4 year career with the Heat he's never shot this bad.. 42% (his lowest) isn't amazing but it's nowhere close to 35% from the field..

Every single year prior he shot above 37% from three, but is now shooting only 30%..add to that his FT% is off the charts in comparison (95% compared to his career averages of 78%)

And the minutes are there, 27 mpg is definitely enough for some decent lines.. I'm not sure whether this will be a season-long shooting slump like I've seen before, or whether he'll bounce back later, but I think these averages are extremely uncharacteristic of TJ, especially for a shooter who can hit 9.5 out of 10 of his free throw attempts this year. 

At least, as you said, stocks are still there. He's always been a decent rebounder and shotblocker for his position.

I added J Rich and Johnson, for the stocks alone. Their FG% is bad, but the peripherals are solid. I'm going to wait and see which one breaks out before making any moves. It's looking to be J Rich, but you never know, because the Heat's young players are so inconsistent! 

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