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14 minutes ago, secretagentman said:

Yeah because he did so well against them in Oakland and that near 6 Era in the second half is so wonderful.  Pick the guy pitching the worst in the second half over two established pitchers playing fairly well.  If Severino stinks it up and the Yanks lose, Boone is going to get the biggest beat down here in NY since Torre badly mishandled the staff in the 2004 ALCS.  It is going to make Giradi's non-challenge last season look like a walk in the park in comparison.  Horrible decision no matter how it works out imo.

News alert:::::::::  They aren't playing in Oakland.  In NY  he gave up 1 run in 7 IP vs them      2.04  ERA after September 5th   matters more   so does home  stats   AND   Happ record in Boston     10-2   2.74 at home    only 3 bad starts at home ALLL season   counting his bad stretch 

 

Happ got bombed his last start and Tanaka got bombed his last 2.  This was a no brainer.  I said it over the weekend.   jeez   lol

 

 

If the game was in Oakland I'd go with Happ, but it's not in Oakland.

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13 minutes ago, secretagentman said:

Beyond awful.  And Mendoza offers nothing in the booth and her fluff, soft-ball interviews (pun intended) of players offer little imo as well.

  at least we agree on this

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19 minutes ago, Ratso1022 said:

News alert:::::::::  They aren't playing in Oakland.  In NY  he gave up 1 run in 7 IP vs them      2.04  ERA since September 12th   matters more   so does home  stats   AND   Happ record in Boston

What he did vs Oakland in the May is meaningless at this point.  He has pretty much stunk since the AS break. 

The fact that he pitched somewhat better against nothing to play for at that point Min, TB and Boston to close out the season is hardly a reason to start him in a sudden death playoff game. And it was not like he dominated those 3 starts, not getting through the 6 inning in 2 of them. 

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1 hour ago, Ratso1022 said:

 

 

AROD is awful in the booth.   

ESPN is just sooo bad in general. CSB but for the most part I've avoided that network entirely for the past 3 + years. The only Sunday night game I've watched recently was the game this year Mets v Yankees it was supposed to be DeGrom's start so I wanted to tune in and watch. Ended up getting rained out (In hindsight thank goodness) The telecast during the rain delay was just so dreadful. From the few minutes I heard/ watched from A Rod it was just really cringe worthy like shivers down your spine type stuff. I didn't hear much from Mendoza but I can all but guarantee that if the game happened I would have hit the mute button. 

 

And sorry but I need to rant one last time about Sterling and Waldman - the last game they were already talking about the ALDS schedule saying when the yankees would be at Fenway again etc.. and then she finishes by saying that's assuming the yankees beat Oakland of course. Well thanks Suzyn!!! You know we can just look up the schedule if the yankees are fortunate enough to win the WC game. Nothing is assumed in a do or die it's baseball you know what kind of crazy stuff can happen in a single game. I know it may seem sort of silly but I'm really superstitious about things like that just really irks me when they do that. Between the two of them they've watched damn near two centuries worth of baseball but some of the stuff they say you'd swear they had never watched a game before in their lives. 

 

Anyways as far actual between the lines. I'm glad they gave Severino the vote of confidence even though he's been a roller coaster in the 2nd half. Thinking about it again if the Yankees are going to make any sort of run this year they are going to need Sev to pitch really well so why not give him the ball and let him do his thing and see what happens. Really what scares me the most is three things Gary catching assuming that is what's happening and the bullpen. Chapman closing out a playoff game is giving me nightmares. And the offense just totally laying an egg. 

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34 minutes ago, DidiFan said:

 Thinking about it again if the Yankees are going to make any sort of run this year they are going to need Sev to pitch really well so why not give him the ball and let him do his thing and see what happens. Really what scares me the most is three things Gary catching assuming that is what's happening and the bullpen. Chapman closing out a playoff game is giving me nightmares. And the offense just totally laying an egg. 

Because in a 5 or 7 games series, 1 game does not necessarily end your season.  If Severino stinks tomorrow, even if they have a quick hook, it will put them 2 or 3 runs behind in all likelihood.  It is all guesswork, but there is NOTHING in his second half performances that will make you think there is a decent chance he is going to go out there and pitch 6+ IPs well.  So if he stinks, by going with him despite all the evidence in the second half to the contrary, you are potentially going to have to do what they did last season vs Minnesota again...and Oakland is no Minnesota.  Of course the Yanks offense might go score 7 runs early and make it somewhat moot, but that is another matter.

 

As to needing him to win it all, that may be true, but so what?  They need Happ and Tanaka to do well also to beat Boston.   You can say the same for a number of players.  In a sudden death single game, Severino can literally end their season single-handedly and he has simply not passed the eye test to make anyone believe this is the right call at this point in time imo.  Maybe they get away with it, but it does not make a lot of sense imo.

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The problem is I don't have a lot of confidence in Aaron Boone as manager. Sevy will be on a very short leash, but in a must win game I'm not sure Boone has the best instincts to know when it's the right time to make a change. Also a big problem with his managing is looking to the next game. It's a must win game. It seems he doesn't want to use Happ in this game because he's already planning for the series against Boston, which we need to win the WC game first.

 

Hopefully Severino dominates, otherwise they'll be going to the bullpen very early. And I don't have a ton of confidence in the Yankees bullpen outside of Green, Chapman, and Betances. Britton is up and down, rarely a clean 1-2-3 inning with him. Guys like Green and Betances haven't been able to pitch more than a single inning effectively. Dramatic dropoff in the 2nd inning. Holder is ok too, had a great season but still doesn't give me a ton of confidence in a big game.


Overall, I'm fine with Sevy starting but it was never a slam dunk decision, which is not a good thing.  Hope we get dominant Sevy and an early lead.

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4 minutes ago, MrBrown said:

The problem is I don't have a lot of confidence in Aaron Boone as manager. Sevy will be on a very short leash, but in a must win game I'm not sure Boone has the best instincts to know when it's the right time to make a change. Also a big problem with his managing is looking to the next game. It's a must win game. It seems he doesn't want to use Happ in this game because he's already planning for the series against Boston, which we need to win the WC game first.

 

Hopefully Severino dominates, otherwise they'll be going to the bullpen very early. And I don't have a ton of confidence in the Yankees bullpen outside of Green, Chapman, and Betances. Britton is up and down, rarely a clean 1-2-3 inning with him. Guys like Green and Betances haven't been able to pitch more than a single inning effectively. Dramatic dropoff in the 2nd inning. Holder is ok too, had a great season but still doesn't give me a ton of confidence in a big game.


Overall, I'm fine with Sevy starting but it was never a slam dunk decision, which is not a good thing.  Hope we get dominant Sevy and an early lead.

 

pretty much agree with this.  i am happy that stanton and sanchez looked good the last week and hicks and didi looked healthy.

 

im hoping we can score 6 runs to be honest

 

on a side note, do you want the yanks to go after Corbin, Kershaw or another pitcher in free agency ??

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@secretagentman Yea I get it. But for me I just feel like its a one game do or die you go with your best arm and let the chips fall. Their best arm talent wise is Severino. It's one game - anything can happen Severino could give up a shot sure but you know what Happ sure could too like he's a 35 year old journey man who has had a nice late career resurgence he's far from infallible. Like the Detroit start where he got shellacked. If Sev gives up a two run shot and gets yanked early and the offense can't muster three runs to win against Liam Hendriks and the bull pen here at home (Yes I know the OAK pen is good but still) you know what they deserve to play golf for the winter with Cespedes. Severino is the team's future let's see what he can do I think he pitches well tomorrow and he's a guy that I think will feed off the energy of the home crowd (the decision may have been different had this game been in Oakland who knows).

Anyways I'm rambling again just excited (and anxious) for some playoff ball. :)

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10 minutes ago, DidiFan said:

@secretagentman Yea I get it. But for me I just feel like its a one game do or die you go with your best arm and let the chips fall. Their best arm talent wise is Severino. It's one game - anything can happen Severino could give up a shot sure but you know what Happ sure could too like he's a 35 year old journey man who has had a nice late career resurgence he's far from infallible. Like the Detroit start where he got shellacked. If Sev gives up a two run shot and gets yanked early and the offense can't muster three runs to win against Liam Hendriks and the bull pen here at home (Yes I know the OAK pen is good but still) you know what they deserve to play golf for the winter with Cespedes. Severino is the team's future let's see what he can do I think he pitches well tomorrow and he's a guy that I think will feed off the energy of the home crowd (the decision may have been different had this game been in Oakland who knows).

Anyways I'm rambling again just excited (and anxious) for some playoff ball. :)

Their best arm has not been there best arm for the past 2.5 to 3 months.  That is a simple fact.  Hoping he reverts to first half form or that talent takes over now, after months of being anywhere from mediocre to awful is just not passing the eye test imo.  Happ is no journeyman.  And I would have been OK with Tanaka if need be.  Severino is just the worst of the 3 right now and Boone is gambling because he is either foolishly looking ahead for match ups against Boston that may never happen or has his head in his stat-head binder and is not using his common sense and eyes imo.  Either way, if it goes wrong, he will never live it down because outside of David Cone, no one has been calling for Severino.  As someone once said, managers rarely win you ball games, but they sure can lose them for you.

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IMO, and I've felt this for over a week.  It's a tough choice between Severino and Happ.   You have to take Severino's home record into account and that he has looked better past 3 starts, also the bulk of his bad outings came on the road.   Since it's a tough decision, the tie breaker, is I'd rather see Happ pitch games 1 and 5 in Boston.   I think you do need to look ahead, somewhat.   

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17 minutes ago, secretagentman said:

Their best arm has not been there best arm for the past 2.5 to 3 months.  That is a simple fact.  Hoping he reverts to first half form or that talent takes over now, after months of being anywhere from mediocre to awful is just not passing the eye test imo.  Happ is no journeyman.  And I would have been OK with Tanaka if need be.  Severino is just the worst of the 3 right now and Boone is gambling because he is either foolishly looking ahead for match ups against Boston that may never happen or has his head in his stat-head binder and is not using his common sense and eyes imo.  Either way, if it goes wrong, he will never live it down because outside of David Cone, no one has been calling for Severino.  As someone once said, managers rarely win you ball games, but they sure can lose them for you.

really from July 7th - Sept 5th.     Less than 2  months.     An 11 start stretch where he went 4-5 with a 6.27  ERA  other than that   15-3  1.99.   You act like the last 3 starts didn't matter.  Mattered for home field.  1  start vs an extremely hot Rays team   another mid September vs a still hot sox team.  I'd say they mattered.  Also, he contined to pitch well at home throughout,   Except for 3 starts all year

 

Tanaka, is, by far, the worst of the 3 right now.  I doubt he was in the discussion at the end

 

 

Sutcliffe, called for Severino, yesterday.       I have been, too   :o

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1 hour ago, jfazz23 said:

 

pretty much agree with this.  i am happy that stanton and sanchez looked good the last week and hicks and didi looked healthy.

 

im hoping we can score 6 runs to be honest

 

on a side note, do you want the yanks to go after Corbin, Kershaw or another pitcher in free agency ??

At the right price I'm definitely interested in Corbin.  Kershaw is going to be too much risk but I certainly wouldn't complain if they do sign him.  I don't really like Keuchel for the Yankees.  I'd like to re-sign Happ, and CC for like $8M makes sense to me.

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19 minutes ago, Ratso1022 said:

IMO, and I've felt this for over a week.  It's a tough choice between Severino and Happ.   You have to take Severino's home record into account and that he has looked better past 3 starts, also the bulk of his bad outings came on the road.   Since it's a tough decision, the tie breaker, is I'd rather see Happ pitch games 1 and 5 in Boston.   I think you do need to look ahead, somewhat.   

 

 

I think you go all out in the pen tomorrow, and have Sevy on a short leash.  You can tell, early, if he has it.     I'd have  CC in long relief.

 

 

  Have the rotation set for Boston.   I'd go   Happ, Tanaka, Severino, CC, Happ

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1 minute ago, Ratso1022 said:

 

 

I think you go all out in the pen tomorrow, and have Sevy on a short leash.  You can tell, early, if he has it.     I'd have  CC in long relief.

 

 

  Have the rotation set for Boston.   I'd go   Happ, Tanaka, Severino, CC, Happ

 

 

u are starting to win me over with severino

 

u usually can tell in the first if he has his location, velocity and sharp slider.  i agree at having CC ready for 3 or 4 innings if needed

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8 minutes ago, MrBrown said:

At the right price I'm definitely interested in Corbin.  Kershaw is going to be too much risk but I certainly wouldn't complain if they do sign him.  I don't really like Keuchel for the Yankees.  I'd like to re-sign Happ, and CC for like $8M makes sense to me.

 

 

Corbin and Happ.     That's it of the guys mentioned.       I'd let CC go.   Unless we are desperate for a no. 5.         I want no part of Kershaw or Keuchel.   

 

I definitely think Corbin should be a priority.   He wants to pitch for the yanks. 

 

WHat about taking a shot at Madbum?????

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4 minutes ago, Ratso1022 said:

 

 

I think you go all out in the pen tomorrow, and have Sevy on a short leash.  You can tell, early, if he has it.     I'd have  CC in long relief.

 

 

  Have the rotation set for Boston.   I'd go   Happ, Tanaka, Severino, CC, Happ

 

1 minute ago, jfazz23 said:

 

 

u are starting to win me over with severino

 

u usually can tell in the first if he has his location, velocity and sharp slider.  i agree at having CC ready for 3 or 4 innings if needed

 

CC was left off the roster for the WC game.

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Just now, MrBrown said:

 

 

CC was left off the roster for the WC game.

 

so much for that idea:mellow:

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Ratso1022 said:

 

 

Corbin and Happ.     That's it of the guys mentioned.       I'd let CC go.   Unless we are desperate for a no. 5.  I want no part of Kershaw or Keuchel.     

 

WHat about taking a shot at Madbum?????

i think madbum has too many miles and is on the decline. he will probably cost too much as well.  i like happ on a 2 year deal with a 3rd year option.  hopefully no one outbids us.  corbin scares me a little but would be cheaper than kershaw.  i really dont want kershaw or keuchel either.

 

i like CC better than u.  id give him another 12 million if he stayed.

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4 minutes ago, jfazz23 said:

i think madbum has too many miles and is on the decline. he will probably cost too much as well.  i like happ on a 2 year deal with a 3rd year option.  hopefully no one outbids us.  corbin scares me a little but would be cheaper than kershaw.  i really dont want kershaw or keuchel either.

 

i like CC better than u.  id give him another 12 million if he stayed.

 

 

A lot will depend on when they think Sheffield will be ready, also

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2 minutes ago, Ratso1022 said:

 

 

A lot will depend on when they think Sheffield will be ready, also

 

u can never have enough pitching.  and im not incredibly high on sheffield and loaisiga hasnt been impressive as of late.  the rest of their arms are prob 2 or 3 years away

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3 minutes ago, jfazz23 said:

 

 

u are starting to win me over with severino

 

u usually can tell in the first if he has his location, velocity and sharp slider.  i agree at having CC ready for 3 or 4 innings if needed

CC???  There is a ticket to a shellacking if ever there was one.  He is a finesse pitcher that is hit or miss now.  You may as well throw Lance Lynn out there. CC should not even be on the roster for this game imo as there is no reason to bring him in.  Happ and Tanaka can pitch if need be...they have no reason to save anyone for Boston.  If Severino gets lit up, you already know Boone is going to play his Holder, Green, Britton, Robertson, Betances, Chapman dance to see which one does not have it lol.  He would be nuts to bring in CC with all those relievers and Happ and Tanaka around if Severino gets lit up in the first...yeah, let's bring in our 4th best starter to follow up on our 3rd best starter and leave the 2 starters who are pitching the best in reserve...that makes zero sense imo.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, jfazz23 said:

i think madbum has too many miles and is on the decline. he will probably cost too much as well.  i like happ on a 2 year deal with a 3rd year option.  hopefully no one outbids us.  corbin scares me a little but would be cheaper than kershaw.  i really dont want kershaw or keuchel either.

 

i like CC better than u.  id give him another 12 million if he stayed.

He is a 5 IP pitcher at best now who they are scared to let face opponents third time through the order.  Let the fat boy walk. 

 

Kershaw would be nuts to opt out of his contract after 3 years with back issues.  He would also be nuts to leave LA...almost zero chance it happens imo.

 

Corbin is a one year wonder so far...bring him to the AL East and he gets lit up imo.

 

Keuchel is mediocre at best...I rather re-sign Happ.

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1 minute ago, secretagentman said:

CC???  There is a ticket to a shellacking if ever there was one.  He is a finesse pitcher that is hit or miss now.  You may as well throw Lance Lynn out there. CC should not even be on the roster for this game imo as there is no reason to bring him in.  Happ and Tanaka can pitch if need be...they have no reason to save anyone for Boston.  If Severino gets lit up, you already know Boone is going to play his Holder, Green, Britton, Robertson, Betances, Chapman dance to see which one does not have it lol.  He would be nuts to bring in CC with all those relievers and Happ and Tanaka around if Severino gets lit up in the first...yeah, let's bring in our 4th best starter to follow up on our 3rd best starter and leave the 2 starters who are pitching the best in reserve...that makes zero sense imo.

 

 

 

 

you missed the part where CC has been left off the roster.   Your man Boone agrees with you

 

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1 minute ago, secretagentman said:

He is a 5 IP pitcher at best now who they are scared to let face opponents third time through the order.  Let the fat boy walk. 

 

Kershaw would be nuts to opt out of his contract after 3 years with back issues.  He would also be nuts to leave LA...almost zero chance it happens imo.

 

Corbin is a one year wonder so far...bring him to the AL East and he gets lit up imo.

 

Keuchel is mediocre at best...I rather re-sign Happ.

 

I agree with everything but Corbin.   I think he would be a very solid no. 3.     Zona is a tough home park to pitch in, plus he had to deal with Coors and the Dodgers were 2nd in homers this year.      Resign Happ  and sign Corbin

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49 minutes ago, secretagentman said:

He is a 5 IP pitcher at best now who they are scared to let face opponents third time through the order.  Let the fat boy walk. 

 

Kershaw would be nuts to opt out of his contract after 3 years with back issues.  He would also be nuts to leave LA...almost zero chance it happens imo.

 

Corbin is a one year wonder so far...bring him to the AL East and he gets lit up imo.

 

Keuchel is mediocre at best...I rather re-sign Happ.

If he opts, which would be a questionable move, I heard he would like to play for the Rangers. Yankees would not go after Madbum for Salary cap reasons, imo.

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