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David Johnson 2018 Outlook

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22 minutes ago, Smantzas said:

Is taking this guy #1 crazy in a .5 ppr? 

Absolutely not.

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5 hours ago, BigBenTheSteelerMan said:

Is the fact that they haven't agreed on a contract yet worrying anyone?

 

If anything it will make him more motivated.  Not that I’d be worried about motivation if he had signed, but of course he will want to show everyone he’s worthy of a monster contract.

 

He’s not holding out or complaining like Bell.  

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5 hours ago, Gohawks said:

No. Unlike Bell Johnson isn’t a petty diva.

 

Football (and RB especially), is the one sport I don’t begrudge guys for holding out and trying to get a big contract if they’ve earned it (which Bell has).

 

The system is so skewed against the players, and that position has such a short shelf life, that I completely understand where Bell is coming from.  He may be a diva, but I can’t hate on him for trying to get paid.

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1 hour ago, Smantzas said:

Is taking this guy #1 crazy in a .5 ppr? 

 

I’d still take Gurley first, but I’ve moved DJ ahead of Bell. Unfortunately I won’t get to make that decision since I have 4th pick in my draft this weekend. Crossing my fingers he falls to me.

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1 hour ago, Smantzas said:

Is taking this guy #1 crazy in a .5 ppr? 

 

Good question. My opinion is if you're drafting #1, it's sort of a crap shoot, in a good way.  Any of those top 5 RBs, could be the #1 RB.  DJ is highly motivated and is in my opinion more talented than Gurley.  He's said again and again that his goal is 1k receiving & 1k rushing yards and I personally think he's going to do it.  Last year it was a no brainier to take DJ in the top two.   You'll probably get a snicker but I do think that in any ppr format, DJ will finish higher than Gurley.  Bell would be a tougher decision though I like DJ's youth.  

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36 minutes ago, SkinsChargersFan said:

 

If anything it will make him more motivated.  Not that I’d be worried about motivation if he had signed, but of course he will want to show everyone he’s worthy of a monster contract.

 

He’s not holding out or complaining like Bell.  

Right, he's hungry and he's humble. His contract situation is a benefit in terms of his fantasy outlook

Honestly there's not much you could improve on about this guy's situation to make him more of a fantasy slam dunk this season.

He's even got fresh legs.

O-line could always be better (they're average) and we could debate the merits of a more high-powered offense (because it takes touches away from him) but I'm confidently taking him at #2 in PPR, regardless of who goes #1, unless something wild happens and the guy head of me takes DJ #1

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5 minutes ago, mikeflavaz said:

 

Good question. My opinion is if you're drafting #1, it's sort of a crap shoot, in a good way.  Any of those top 5 RBs, could be the #1 RB.  DJ is highly motivated and is in my opinion more talented than Gurley.  He's said again and again that his goal is 1k receiving & 1k rushing yards and I personally think he's going to do it.  Last year it was a no brainier to take DJ in the top two.   You'll probably get a snicker but I do think that in any ppr format, DJ will finish higher than Gurley.  Bell would be a tougher decision though I like DJ's youth.  

 

I agree with everything you said, but I’d like to add that the biggest appeal to me of Gurley is the safety.  Barring injury, I see no possible way he doesn’t finish top 3.  His offense is too good, and his O-Line is much better than DJ.  

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4 hours ago, Smantzas said:

Is taking this guy #1 crazy in a .5 ppr? 

 

If I have #1 pick in my draft tomorrow I'm taking DJ and it's 0.5 ppr

 

- his line is slightly improved from 2016

- his legs should be fresh after a whole season off

- he's the focal point of the offense and gets fed on the goal line, where as bell and gurley have far better supporting casts who could take away TDs

 

Plus he suffered a hand injury last year not a leg injury. Strangely this is why I think he's behind gurley and bell. People remember the injury and shy away. In my other league which is 1 ppr, he fell to me at #5 overall (!!!!!!). I was ecstatic to grab him there thinking he'd be gone for sure. Third year in a row drafting him :wub:

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4 hours ago, Smantzas said:

Is taking this guy #1 crazy in a .5 ppr? 

 

3 minutes ago, BigBenTheSteelerMan said:

Thinking about taking him #2 overall in my .5 ppr league in my upcoming draft 

7 minutes ago, street sharks said:

If I have #1 pick in my draft tomorrow I'm taking DJ and it's 0.5 ppr

 

Forgetting the 80 receptions for 879 yards and 4TDs, DJ rushed for 1239 yards in 2016 with an offensive line ranked 26th in the NFL. While it's still too early to rank offensive lines with certainty---i.e. other than projections---the Cardinals are again at the mid-20s according to most "professional" rankings. DJ's goal of attaining a 1000-yard rushing / 1000-yard receiving is entirely possible.

 

Some RBs are entirely dependent on offensive line blocking, and the best RBs are more independent:

 

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1 hour ago, cohenstantinople said:

 

 

Forgetting the 80 receptions for 879 yards and 4TDs, DJ rushed for 1239 yards in 2016 with an offensive line ranked 26th in the NFL. While it's still too early to rank offensive lines with certainty---i.e. other than projections---the Cardinals are again at the mid-20s according to most "professional" rankings. DJ's goal of attaining a 1000-yard rushing / 1000-yard receiving is entirely possible.

 

Some RBs are entirely dependent on offensive line blocking, and the best RBs are more independent:

 

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Thing of beauty right there !!

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On 8/27/2018 at 10:55 PM, SvanE42 said:

For those that know more about offensive lines than I do, how much worse is the Arizona line compared to Dallas' after their recent injuries?  

Arizona's line is way worse. But line doesn't affect DJ. It might affect Zeke. I have DJ ahead of Zeke in standard. 

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1 hour ago, cohenstantinople said:

 

 

Forgetting the 80 receptions for 879 yards and 4TDs, DJ rushed for 1239 yards in 2016 with an offensive line ranked 26th in the NFL. While it's still too early to rank offensive lines with certainty---i.e. other than projections---the Cardinals are again at the mid-20s according to most "professional" rankings. DJ's goal of attaining a 1000-yard rushing / 1000-yard receiving is entirely possible.

 

Some RBs are entirely dependent on offensive line blocking, and the best RBs are more independent:

 

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Great run, but to be honest, that's not the best way to make a living.  Cant bank on him doing this all season.  I'd prefer to see truck sized holes. 

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54 minutes ago, The Caucasian Sensation said:

 

Thing of beauty right there !!

 

Miss these days. Had him two years in a row, made the ship both years and won one. 

 

I still think you go Gurley #1 no matter what, but picking DJ #2 is ideal. Doesn't really matter between DJ, Bell, and Elliott. DJ is such a beast though.

 

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That clip should come with a disclaimer like a Cialis tv ad. 

 

1st time owner here... LET'S GOOOOO

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I'd have DJ at #2 or possibly #3 overall either before Zeke or after Zeke. Still I think Gurley is #1 overall.

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David Johnson is not expected to receive a contract extension before Week 1.

Advice: Johnson, who said he was "encouraged" by ongoing contract discussions just two weeks ago, doesn't seem likely to strike a new deal with the Cardinals prior to Week 1. He's currently scheduled to make $1.88 million in 2018. Johnson was targeting a second consecutive campaign with 2,000-plus yards from scrimmage before injuring his wrist in the season opener and sitting out the final 15 games of the 2017 season. He's still the only young and established weapon on offense in Arizona and remains worthy of a contract similar to Todd Gurley's (four-year, $60 million).

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1 hour ago, octapuss said:

is he going to sign before week one game?

 

Doesn’t really matter with DJ

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1 hour ago, octapuss said:

is he going to sign before week one game?

 

David Johnson does not need to sign because he is under contract.  Johnson's situation is different than Le'Veon Bell's situation because Bell was hit with the franchise tag, which Bell has NOT yet signed, and therefore Bell is not technically a hold-out.

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I legitimately think david johnson is the #1 back in PPR this year. he's literally going to be their entire offense. it's just him and a 35 year old fitz.

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53 minutes ago, BigBenTheSteelerMan said:

Picked him 2nd overall in my .5 ppr league and I'm pretty happy about it 

 

I mean......if you aren't happy with your first pick overall at #2, then we have other issues.

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