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3 hours ago, En Votto Veritas said:

 

This is a great call.  I did not know Smith qualified at SP in Yahoo.  I honestly think this fact vaults him into the top tier of SP qualified RPs as he is a very solid option and will see lots of 8th inning work next to Watson.

I was skeptical but looked into him based on the last few posts about Will Smith... I believe 

 

https://youtu.be/w6X4--hGeLs

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On 4/21/2018 at 2:13 PM, My Dinner With Andre said:

It's funny.

 

Before the season started we could barely name one viable SP eligible guy.

 

Now we have too many to choose from.

 

And it turns out,  most of those guys that seemed so promising havent been particularly valuable.

Gsellman hasn't been so good lately, and even Peacock hasn't done much

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On Friday, May 04, 2018 at 8:17 AM, bliner13 said:

I was skeptical but looked into him based on the last few posts about Will Smith... I believe 

 

https://youtu.be/w6X4--hGeLs

 

Smith has excellent k rates, although walks are a tad high. Still he has been a very good holds guy who at times has been in the next-in-line conversation while with the Brewers.

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Much love to this thread for tipping me off to Will Smith and Richard Rodriguez, two great pickups today.  

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Garrett's been fantastic lately.  Increased K rate and stingier with the walks (30/7 in 25.2 innings)  thus far.  Great for holds for those using SP for that purpose...  

As well Will Smith with the hold today...

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Jarlin the Marlin Garcia moved to the bullpen. I’ve never seen him pitch so I’m not sure how he’ll do.

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Top SP eligibile pitchers in no particular order AS OF TODAY 5/19...feel free to add or offer opinions on why not any of these guys... 

 

A. Garrett (CIN) 

R. Gsellman (NYM) 

Lugo (NYM) 

B. Norris (STL) 

J. Hicks (STL) 

 

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4 minutes ago, bliner13 said:

Top SP eligibile pitchers in no particular order AS OF TODAY 5/19...feel free to add or offer opinions on why not any of these guys... 

 

A. Garrett (CIN) 

R. Gsellman (NYM) 

Lugo (NYM) 

B. Norris (STL) 

J. Hicks (STL) 

 

Already added Garrett and Gsellman in my 10 team. 2 reliable SP eligible relievers who help keep my ERA and WHIP ratios down, with a trickle of K's and an occasional W

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12 minutes ago, bliner13 said:

Top SP eligibile pitchers in no particular order AS OF TODAY 5/19...feel free to add or offer opinions on why not any of these guys... 

 

A. Garrett (CIN) 

R. Gsellman (NYM) 

Lugo (NYM) 

B. Norris (STL) 

J. Hicks (STL) 

 


I would have Peacock in there for certain and he may be the safest choice to be good all year.   Will Smith has SP eligibility in Yahoo and should rack up a lot of holds.  McHugh has been mentioned in this thread and he has also been super in Houston although no holds yet.  Both he and Peacock need some more innings though.  I think Hicks is going to have resolve his low k and  high bb issues otherwise I see him having issues...   

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50 minutes ago, bliner13 said:

Top SP eligibile pitchers in no particular order AS OF TODAY 5/19...feel free to add or offer opinions on why not any of these guys... 

 

A. Garrett (CIN) 

R. Gsellman (NYM) 

Lugo (NYM) 

B. Norris (STL) 

J. Hicks (STL) 

 

Hicks shouldn’t be anywhere near a list like this, especially not with actually good SP/RPs like Peacock and McHugh. 

 

Don’t get me wrong. He could end up on a list like this someday, but right now he’s just not good. I think people have really been blinded by the velocity hype. He absolutely needs to have command of his pitches before he can be on a list like this. 

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I had Hicks for most of the year. And only needed to drop him bc if so many DL guys. He doesn't dazzle with K's as you'd expect but I am in a non holds league and am it for the ratios and late wins. And to get to my min innings pitched per/week. Hicks isn't a world beater but is mentionable in the conversion. 

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Peacock was an oversight. He's in there for sure as is Will Smith and McHugh 

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I'd rank our SP qualified RPs:

 

B Norris (STL) is a closer and shouldn't really be available in any league. So:

 

Tier 1

B Peacock (HOU)

A Garrett (CIN)
W Smith (SF)

S Lugo (NYM)

 

Tier 2

J Hicks (STL) (can he get walks under control to jump to tier 1?)

R Gsellman (NYM) (lets a lot of guys on base)

B Farmer (DET) (sick stuff but blows up regularly)

M Magill (MIN) (who? can he continue?)

C McHugh (HOU) (will he play enough?)

 

Tier 3

C Bergman (SEA)

S Wright (BOS)

B Keller (KC)

M Andriese (TB) (technically a starter but only goes 3 or so IP last I checked)

 

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Is everybody ignoring or forgetting Seranthony Dominguez?

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12 minutes ago, 9703 said:

Is everybody ignoring or forgetting Seranthony Dominguez?

He's got 4 whole innings under his belt and is not SP eligibile in Yahoo. So no. ;)

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22 minutes ago, bliner13 said:

He's got 4 whole innings under his belt and is not SP eligibile in Yahoo. So no. ;)

 

Whoops, my bad. He’s eligible in ESPN leagues.

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1 hour ago, En Votto Veritas said:

I'd rank our SP qualified RPs:

 

B Norris (STL) is a closer and shouldn't really be available in any league. So:

 

Tier 1

B Peacock (HOU)

A Garrett (CIN)
W Smith (SF)

S Lugo (NYM)

 

Tier 2

J Hicks (STL) (can he get walks under control to jump to tier 1?)

R Gsellman (NYM) (lets a lot of guys on base)

B Farmer (DET) (sick stuff but blows up regularly)

M Magill (MIN) (who? can he continue?)

C McHugh (HOU) (will he play enough?)

 

Tier 3

C Bergman (SEA)

S Wright (BOS)

B Keller (KC)

M Andriese (TB) (technically a starter but only goes 3 or so IP last I checked)

 

No way Hicks is in Tier 2. Dude gets next to no strikeouts. I think Gsellman deserves to be in Tier 1 because of the number of innings he pitches, while still having a low ERA (2.93), relatively speaking. Peacock doesn't pitch enough. The bullpen in Houston is packed. Gsellman and Lugo have clear roles in the Mets bullpen. 

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49 minutes ago, 9703 said:

Is everybody ignoring or forgetting Seranthony Dominguez?

Nope, I have him on my watch list. Not enough of a sample size for me to add him quite yet though. 

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1 hour ago, En Votto Veritas said:

I'd rank our SP qualified RPs:

 

B Norris (STL) is a closer and shouldn't really be available in any league. So:

 

Tier 1

B Peacock (HOU)

A Garrett (CIN)
W Smith (SF)

S Lugo (NYM)

 

Tier 2

J Hicks (STL) (can he get walks under control to jump to tier 1?)

R Gsellman (NYM) (lets a lot of guys on base)

B Farmer (DET) (sick stuff but blows up regularly)

M Magill (MIN) (who? can he continue?)

C McHugh (HOU) (will he play enough?)

 

Tier 3

C Bergman (SEA)

S Wright (BOS)

B Keller (KC)

M Andriese (TB) (technically a starter but only goes 3 or so IP last I checked)

 

Hicks doesn't strike anyone out. I'm not sure if I'd put him in tier two if he stopped walking people. He's way too wild to be ranked that high.

I'm going to take awhile to believe in Garrett. History of wildness and a 51% first strike rate right now? I'm okay being wrong on this one but I'm not buying in.

McHugh pitches as much as Peacock. Bump one up or the other down. 

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1 hour ago, En Votto Veritas said:

I'd rank our SP qualified RPs:

 

B Norris (STL) is a closer and shouldn't really be available in any league. So:

 

Tier 1

B Peacock (HOU)

A Garrett (CIN)
W Smith (SF)

S Lugo (NYM)

 

Tier 2

J Hicks (STL) (can he get walks under control to jump to tier 1?)

R Gsellman (NYM) (lets a lot of guys on base)

B Farmer (DET) (sick stuff but blows up regularly)

M Magill (MIN) (who? can he continue?)

C McHugh (HOU) (will he play enough?)

 

Tier 3

C Bergman (SEA)

S Wright (BOS)

B Keller (KC)

M Andriese (TB) (technically a starter but only goes 3 or so IP last I checked)

 

Seranthony Dominguez def needs to be in here.  All of your tier 3 guys are starters, I think.  Also, Will Smith is not SP elg in some formats.

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5 minutes ago, AnonymousRob said:

Hicks doesn't strike anyone out. I'm not sure if I'd put him in tier two if he stopped walking people. He's way too wild to be ranked that high.

I'm going to take awhile to believe in Garrett. History of wildness and a 51% first strike rate right now? I'm okay being wrong on this one but I'm not buying in.

McHugh pitches as much as Peacock. Bump one up or the other down. 

This, but I would put Garrett on your watch list. He's been playing well all year, and has pitched a healthy amount of innings. 

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On 5/15/2018 at 9:38 PM, #1Stunna said:

Much love to this thread for tipping me off to Will Smith and Richard Rodriguez, two great pickups today.  

Rodriguez isn't SP eligible, but I picked him up anyways. 29 K's in 16 innings of work.

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16 minutes ago, MJDrocks said:

Seranthony Dominguez def needs to be in here.  All of your tier 3 guys are starters, I think.  Also, Will Smith is not SP elg in some formats.

Dominguez isn't SP eligible either...at least in Yahoo he isn't. 

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3 hours ago, bliner13 said:

I had Hicks for most of the year. And only needed to drop him bc if so many DL guys. He doesn't dazzle with K's as you'd expect but I am in a non holds league and am it for the ratios and late wins. And to get to my min innings pitched per/week. Hicks isn't a world beater but is mentionable in the conversion. 

No, I don’t think he’s mentionable at all in a conversation of the Top 5 SP/RP guys. 

 

I could see an argument about speculative adds, about future potential or whatever for sure! But there’s just no way that I buy he’s a Top 5 guy with his current command. I think even Top 10 could be questionable. 

 

In his small sample of 20.2 innings, he’s put up a 2.18 ERA on a 4.84 FIP and a 6.09 xFIP. There’s an interesting argument that you could make about his outperforming his peripherals since he’s a weirdo that pitches a 100 MPH sinker. But he’s not going to continue beating his peripherals with his command how is. I don’t see how he can maintain an 80% LOB rate with a 3.48 K/9 and a 6.10 BB/9. I watch him regularly, and he just doesn’t inspire confidence. 

 

Lots of potential? Sure. Fun to see a 100 MPH sinker? Absolutely. Someone I’d roster over other SP eligible relievers? Probably not, unless we’re in a super deep league. 

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