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Alex Reyes 2018 Outlook

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3 hours ago, Philoumenos said:

I wonder why his velocity went back up briefly.

 

Did the mound visit somehow inspire him to throw even harder for one last inning or something? Like being told "We're going to let you have one more inning," and he decided to just hurl it as hard as he could for the last bit? I hope that didn't end up injuring him more.

Same as with Thor.  Strasburg and the Nats were killing them so he started throwing harder and harder.  Reyes was trying to prove his health after the mound visit.  Players are NOT qualified to make that determination in the middle of a game with adrenaline rushing.

 

Let this be a lesson to just yank the player after a velo drop ESPECIALLY when coming off anither serious injury.

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will probably go to the bullpen when he comes back. would be my guess. 

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12 minutes ago, trojans888 said:

Reminds me of the Eaton thread where everyone was like he's done for year.

 

I don't think that anybody has said to drop until actual MRI results come out, but a GM generally won't state possibly very bad news prior without some serious worries. Also, peak Reyes is more valuable than peak Eaton.

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On 6/1/2018 at 3:38 PM, drunkb said:

 

I don't think that anybody has said to drop until actual MRI results come out, but a GM generally won't state possibly very bad news prior without some serious worries. Also, peak Reyes is more valuable than peak Eaton.

 

I wish the GM were as vague as GMs are wont to be. It would have been easier to recoup something for him with a more ambiguous prognosis. 

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Meeting with a doctor on Wednesday according to the Cardinals broadcast, so I'm holding at least until word comes back from that visit.

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Who's still gluing him to a DL spot?  A significant lat strain which they are saying definitely more than a couple starts right from the get go.  Sounds like a month to me.  And no guarantee he's in the rotation when he gets back.  If I have any DL issues he's the first to go imo. 

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3 minutes ago, TC84 said:

Who's still gluing him to a DL spot?  A significant lat strain which they are saying definitely more than a couple starts right from the get go.  Sounds like a month to me.  And no guarantee he's in the rotation when he gets back.  If I have any DL issues he's the first to go imo. 

hanging on until i hear some kind of medical report.  dont doubt it will be a while until he pitches again, but nothing is tempting me to drop until i hear something more definitive....

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yup, i'm holding until we have a definitive timeline. he's certainly going to be out for some time but might as well wait to get official word

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But this isn't Carlos Martinez established veteran who had a lat strain Out 3 weeks this is a rookie coming off of 22 months of Tommy John surgery recovery even if his lat strain heals quicker than they expect they're still going to be very cautious with him in rehab outings which is going to bring his right up to the point of playoffs as good as he is he's not going to hit his stride with enough time to impact you greatly if there's another option out there I drop that is in redraft definitely a hold in Dynasty obviously

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Guessing the first one wasnt very good?

 

Alex Reyes is scheduled to get a second opinion on his strained right lat Wednesday from Dr. Anthony Romeo.

We should have a better idea about the injury and a possible timetable by the end of this week. Reyes strained his lat in his season debut last Wednesday against the Brewers. He just spent 16 months recovering from Tommy John reconstructive surgery.

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18 minutes ago, herschel said:

Guessing the first one wasnt very good?

 

Alex Reyes is scheduled to get a second opinion on his strained right lat Wednesday from Dr. Anthony Romeo.

We should have a better idea about the injury and a possible timetable by the end of this week. Reyes strained his lat in his season debut last Wednesday against the Brewers. He just spent 16 months recovering from Tommy John reconstructive surgery.

Actually it's even worse. Apparently from the wording of some other reports, the dummy had fatigue and soreness before his MLB return and he chose to tell no one about it. Syndergaard-esque honestly.

 

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UPDATE: Alex Reyes will go to Philadelphia on Wednesday to meet with a orthopedic surgeon and shoulder specialist to determine the severity of a muscle strain near his right shoulder. Reyes will meet with Dr. Anthony Romeo, who has been a physician for the Chicago White Sox. Reyes revealed to the Cardinals recently that he had some fatigue and soreness in his shoulder following his Class AAA Memphis start, which came six days before his return to the major-league rotation.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/cardinal-beat/cardinals-put-the-battery-back-together-with-molina-martinez-set/article_943da415-fc62-54e2-8582-56fe57a3e1ce.html

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He threw 93 pitches in one of his rehab starts. I remember thinking at the time that seemed like a lot of pitches for that stage

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1 minute ago, slaphitter said:

He threw 93 pitches in one of his rehab starts. I remember thinking at the time that seemed like a lot of pitches for that stage

He threw 67 at Palm Beach, 80 at Peoria, 93 at Springfield and 90 at Memphis (where the fatigue and soreness apparently began).

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If players hold back information regarding possible injury, it seems that teams should be able to have reimbursement rights, or subrogation rights to collect on what would have went to the insurer(s).  This hurts the team also, so some other type of disciplinary measure might discourage this greatly IMO.

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40 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Take this with a large grain of salt..... but from one of our past contributors....

 

 

 

I think he’s making 1 too many leaps in speculating that this might be career threatening. If it’s a significant lat tear, it would make sense that surgery was recommended and that Reyes wants a second opinion to make sure. Pitchers can come back from lat surgery. To suggest it might be career threatening seems rather presumptuous.

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50 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Take this with a large grain of salt..... but from one of our past contributors....

 

 

 

I no his site is subscriber based nowadays but I know this guy is an expert at predicting pitcher injuries and has a long track record of success. Given that I hope he's out of his element here ...

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1 hour ago, STLSU said:

If players hold back information regarding possible injury, it seems that teams should be able to have reimbursement rights, or subrogation rights to collect on what would have went to the insurer(s).  This hurts the team also, so some other type of disciplinary measure might discourage this greatly IMO.

That'll never pass a CBA or MLBPA sniff-test. I agree players should be more willing to disclose issues, but it's never going to happen that way, unless players get their own leverage for medical issues.

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Was just going to post that tweet above. Gone for year Unfortunately. 

 

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5 minutes ago, ZChronicNebula said:

Worst management EVER?!

 

Who?

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2 minutes ago, 89Topps said:

 

Who?

 

Alex Reyes underwent surgery to repair a torn tendon in his right lat muscle on Wednesday.

According to Mark Saxon of The Athletic, recovery time on Reyes's surgery is typically six months. Unfortunately, that means the talented right-hander's season is over. Reyes had missed 16 months recovering from Tommy John surgery, and while he put up dominant numbers in his rehab, he suffered an injury in his last rehab start that escalated in his 2018 MLB debut. We'll hopefully see Reyes back on the mound for the Cardinals in 2019.

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