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Taken out of context, this sounds like backroom chatter on the dark web that should land at least 4 people in jail, 5 if you count me for reading it.   And now it's time for me to come in an

These are the debates I wish this group would have after every pick.  Far more to learn here than dredging through the trash can threads on the regular forum.

how is that parker video more than 15 seconds long?

Saw the below from Graham Barfield on twitter today. More reasoning behind why drafting Pats RB’s is a good strategy (including Burkhead).

 

Why you want a slice of #Patriots backfield every season. Over the last three years, NE finished…

 

- 2nd, 6th, 3rd in RB PPR points

- 2nd, 8th, 8th in RB yards from scrimmage

- 4th, 1st, 18th in RB touches per game

- 2nd, 9th, 6th in RB receptions

- 2nd, 5th, 1st in RB total TDs

 

The “#Patriots backfield is unpredictable” narrative is so overblown. 

 

• Dion Lewis was PPR RB6 in Weeks 9-17 last year 

 

• Blount was a league-winner in 2016, especially in standard (RB6) 

 

• Lewis was RB5 in PPR FPG in 2015 (ACL)

 

• James White’s PPR finishes: 39, 36, 42

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8.01 Br0kenB - Devontae Booker, RB, Denver Broncos

8.02 PackersFan1979 -  Trey Burton, TE, Tennessee Titans

8.03 ToO_BaD - Robert Woods, WR, LA Rams

8.04 Winky - OTC

8.05 BoltUp -

8.06 Iron-cock -

8.07 1972MiamiDolphins -

8.08 FFCollusion -

8.09 Ryan81 -

8.10 DocJ -

8.11 CyberneticGhostOfXmasPast -

8.12 mrblonde1984 -

8.13 predator_05 -  

8.14 ZidaneValor -

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8 minutes ago, boltup15 said:

Saw the below from Graham Barfield on twitter today. More reasoning behind why drafting Pats RB’s is a good strategy (including Burkhead).

 

Why you want a slice of #Patriots backfield every season. Over the last three years, NE finished…

 

- 2nd, 6th, 3rd in RB PPR points

- 2nd, 8th, 8th in RB yards from scrimmage

- 4th, 1st, 18th in RB touches per game

- 2nd, 9th, 6th in RB receptions

- 2nd, 5th, 1st in RB total TDs

 

The “#Patriots backfield is unpredictable” narrative is so overblown. 

 

• Dion Lewis was PPR RB6 in Weeks 9-17 last year 

 

• Blount was a league-winner in 2016, especially in standard (RB6) 

 

• Lewis was RB5 in PPR FPG in 2015 (ACL)

 

• James White’s PPR finishes: 39, 36, 42

 

Dion Lewis 2017 ADP (Rank) in PPR Leagues: 167 (Round 13.12);

Mike Gillislee (67)
James White (106)
Rex Burkhead (117)

 

https://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/adp?format=ppr&year=2017&teams=12&view=graph&pos=all

 

Legarratte Blount 2016 ADP (Rank) in Standard Leagues: 85 (Round 7.10)

 

https://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/adp?format=standard&year=2016&teams=12&view=graph&pos=all

 

Dion Lewis 2015 ADP (Rank) in PPR Leagues: None

 

https://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/adp?format=ppr&year=2015&teams=12&view=graph&pos=all

 

It point is not that nobody will break out.  The point is that it is unpredictable.  It's the Wyatt Earp effect; eventually someone will have a monster game/stretch.

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1 minute ago, boltup15 said:

Saw the below from Graham Barfield on twitter today. More reasoning behind why drafting Pats RB’s is a good strategy (including Burkhead).

 

Why you want a slice of #Patriots backfield every season. Over the last three years, NE finished…

 

- 2nd, 6th, 3rd in RB PPR points

- 2nd, 8th, 8th in RB yards from scrimmage

- 4th, 1st, 18th in RB touches per game

- 2nd, 9th, 6th in RB receptions

- 2nd, 5th, 1st in RB total TDs

 

The “#Patriots backfield is unpredictable” narrative is so overblown. 

 

• Dion Lewis was PPR RB6 in Weeks 9-17 last year 

 

• Blount was a league-winner in 2016, especially in standard (RB6) 

 

• Lewis was RB5 in PPR FPG in 2015 (ACL)

 

• James White’s PPR finishes: 39, 36, 42

 

It's not overblown.  We all know the Patriots are great for RBs, but no one knows which RB will get the work, when, where, or why on any given week.

 

Sure, Blount was a league winner in 2016, know why?  Because he was the 3rd Pats RB off the board that year when everyone was chasing Lewis/White.

 

Last year, remember who the NE back everyone drafted first was?  Mike Gillislee.  His main competition people were debating for the lead back role?  Burkhead.

Who ended up winning?  Lewis.

 

Lewis was RB5 in PPG in 2015?  That's great... except that's the year everyone drafted Blount and Gray as the top 2 NE backs.

 

2013 Steven Ridley becomes a fantasy stud, 2014 everyone drafts him as the first back off the board, Hello Shane Vereen who doubles his PPG.

 

Starting to see the trend?

 

White has been rather steady as the passing down back, I'll give you that much.

 

 

Oh... Zidane beat me to it.

Same exact point.  Pats RB are gold... if you guess the right one.

My rule of thumb for 4 years now has been, always draft 1 NE RB, but never the first one off the board.

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23 minutes ago, boltup15 said:

Saw the below from Graham Barfield on twitter today. More reasoning behind why drafting Pats RB’s is a good strategy (including Burkhead).

 

Why you want a slice of #Patriots backfield every season. Over the last three years, NE finished…

 

- 2nd, 6th, 3rd in RB PPR points

- 2nd, 8th, 8th in RB yards from scrimmage

- 4th, 1st, 18th in RB touches per game

- 2nd, 9th, 6th in RB receptions

- 2nd, 5th, 1st in RB total TDs

 

The “#Patriots backfield is unpredictable” narrative is so overblown. 

 

• Dion Lewis was PPR RB6 in Weeks 9-17 last year 

 

• Blount was a league-winner in 2016, especially in standard (RB6) 

 

• Lewis was RB5 in PPR FPG in 2015 (ACL)

 

• James White’s PPR finishes: 39, 36, 42

 

 

Give me a link to Graham Barfield  telling us which NE RB to draft in the preseason in 17,16, and 15 and maybe I'll consider his opinion.  Otherwise he's another douchey troll on twitter giving out hot takes to drive traffic to his website.

 

Edit:

 

This is Dion Lewis game log with snap counts.  Highlight in orange are the two games vs Miami.  The second one is the first game of the fantasy playoffs.

 

He just ended up playing 10.5% less of the snaps (a reduction of 25% of earlier workload vs Miami) in what was the most important game of the year for fantasy owners. 

 

Predictable?

 

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2 minutes ago, FFCollusion said:

Starting to see the trend?

 

Yes, the trend is the best backs on their team for the past three years has been the starter and Fantasy relevant. Blount/Dion primarily. 

 

The other trend is that the Pats have made average RB’s look better than they should and then they get overdrafted and their jobs get taken over. 

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8.01 Br0kenB - Devontae Booker, RB, Denver Broncos

8.02 PackersFan1979 -  Trey Burton, TE, Tennessee Titans

8.03 ToO_BaD - Robert Woods, WR, LA Rams

8.04 Winky - Nick Chubb, RB, Cleveland Browns

8.05 BoltUp - Giovanni Bernard, RB, Cincinnati Bengals

8.06 Iron-cock - Jordan Reed, TE, Washington Redskins

8.07 1972MiamiDolphins -

8.08 FFCollusion -

8.09 Ryan81 -

8.10 DocJ -

8.11 CyberneticGhostOfXmasPast -

8.12 mrblonde1984 -

8.13 predator_05 -  

8.14 ZidaneValor -

 

I'll text @1972Miamidolphins

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25 minutes ago, Iron-cock said:

 

 

Give me a link to Graham Barfield  telling us which NE RB to draft in the preseason in 17,16, and 15 and maybe I'll consider his opinion.  Otherwise he's another douchey troll on twitter giving out hot takes to drive traffic to his website.

 

Edit:

 

This is Dion Lewis game log with snap counts.  Highlight in orange are the two games vs Miami.  The second one is the first game of the fantasy playoffs.

 

He just ended up playing 10.5% less of the snaps (a reduction of 25% of earlier workload vs Miami) in what was the most important game of the year for fantasy owners. 

 

Predictable?

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Iron-cock said:

8.01 Br0kenB - Devontae Booker, RB, Denver Broncos

8.02 PackersFan1979 -  Trey Burton, TE, Tennessee Titans

8.03 ToO_BaD - Robert Woods, WR, LA Rams

8.04 Winky - Nick Chubb, RB, Cleveland Browns

8.05 BoltUp - Giovanni Bernard, RB, Cincinnati Bengals

8.06 Iron-cock - Jordan Reed, TE, Washington Redskins

8.07 1972MiamiDolphins -

8.08 FFCollusion -

8.09 Ryan81 -

8.10 DocJ -

8.11 CyberneticGhostOfXmasPast -

8.12 mrblonde1984 -

8.13 predator_05 -  

8.14 ZidaneValor -

 

I'll text @1972Miamidolphins

Corey clement, @FFCollusion

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1 hour ago, boltup15 said:

Saw the below from Graham Barfield on twitter today. More reasoning behind why drafting Pats RB’s is a good strategy (including Burkhead).

 

Why you want a slice of #Patriots backfield every season. Over the last three years, NE finished…

 

- 2nd, 6th, 3rd in RB PPR points

- 2nd, 8th, 8th in RB yards from scrimmage

- 4th, 1st, 18th in RB touches per game

- 2nd, 9th, 6th in RB receptions

- 2nd, 5th, 1st in RB total TDs

 

The “#Patriots backfield is unpredictable” narrative is so overblown. 

 

• Dion Lewis was PPR RB6 in Weeks 9-17 last year 

 

• Blount was a league-winner in 2016, especially in standard (RB6) 

 

• Lewis was RB5 in PPR FPG in 2015 (ACL)

 

• James White’s PPR finishes: 39, 36, 42

 

More from Twitter...

 

• Rex Burkhead averaged 2.37 yards per route run in 2017, 2nd in the NFL among running backs! Only Alvin Kamara was ahead of him. (PFF)

 

• Tom Brady was 62/69 when targeting Rex Burkhead and Dion Lewis this year according to @PFF

 

• Rex Burkhead averaged 13 PPG in 10 appearances. Would have finished as RB12 OVER Dion Lewis if he played all 16 games. Currently RB35 on @FantasyPros ECR. Great value, especially during Edelman’s suspension.

 

• Rex Burkhead 12.98 & Dion Lewis 12.69 points per game last year. I’ll buy both Michel & Burkhead at their current cost this year because I want to be involved in top offenses in ppr.

 

• Patriots RBs coach Ivan Fears: Rex Burkhead is 'something special'

 

Again, I love Sony Michel for NE. I think he and Burkhead are going to form quite the 1-2 punch, and I would be happily surprised if Michel became a Jamaal Charles type workhorse. I just think Burkhead is too good not to be a big part of this running game too.

 

 

 

• It's very early and I fully expect Sony Michel to sew up head-committee touches, but Rex Burkhead continues to work with ones. He finished RB12 in fpts/opportunity despite netting only 27.9% of opportunity share in '17. RB36 (86.2 ADP) in MFL 10s. Way too undervalued. (Brad Evans)

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10 minutes ago, boltup15 said:

 

Did not know pro-football reference had snap counts. Definitely good to know. 

 

My apologies for the rant, I made the mistake of reading fantasy football twitter last night.  They’re insufferable.  

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I think this is too early... but this league is reach city and I want to make sure he's on my team.

I refuse to give up, he's too young and now with a HUGE chip on his shoulder, I can't imagine he isn't coming for blood this season.  You know, assuming he even gets signed.  This is another 'value' pick that's bad today, but by labor day could look like a steal.  

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8.01 Br0kenB - Devontae Booker, RB, Denver Broncos

8.02 PackersFan1979 -  Trey Burton, TE, Tennessee Titans

8.03 ToO_BaD - Robert Woods, WR, LA Rams

8.04 Winky - Nick Chubb, RB, Cleveland Browns

8.05 BoltUp - Giovanni Bernard, RB, Cincinnati Bengals

8.06 Iron-cock - Jordan Reed, TE, Washington Redskins

8.07 1972MiamiDolphins - Corey Clement, RB, Pheagles

8.08 FFCollusion - Desmond Demond Bryant, WR, Coming to a team near you!

8.09 Ryan81 - @Ryan81

8.10 DocJ - @DocJ

8.11 CyberneticGhostOfXmasPast -

8.12 mrblonde1984 -

8.13 predator_05 -  

8.14 ZidaneValor -

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