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Courtland Sutton 2018 Outlook

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14 minutes ago, ArtistPain said:

Games 5-8 rookie season for Sutton 9-170ish-2td

games 5-8 rookie season of odb 10-100ish-3 ( played 3 games). 

 

Rest of season son for odb: 80-1200-9

To be completely fair OBJs only competition for targets was some sandwich by the name of Reuben randle and a literal JAG by the name of Rashad Jennings

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Case Keenum limits his fantasy value.  The hype in here is comical.  You guys are comparing him to Beckham.   Ha-larious 

 

 

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I don’t think QB play limits his value at all. Dude is a 50/50 ball specialist. Throw it as far as you can and he’s better at getting it than a CB. He looks nowhere near as quick as someone like OBJ so short stuff isn’t going to the house unless it’s a perfectly blocked screen ala DT.  If you throw a pick, just means more attempts to come back later on. I think the most important part for his fantasy value is offensive line play. He needs a little time to get going and get deep. This is what worries w me w the Houston matchup. 

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48 minutes ago, itschief33 said:

To be completely fair OBJs only competition for targets was some sandwich by the name of Reuben randle and a literal JAG by the name of Rashad Jennings

I remember that year, and I posted a ridiculous(literally worthy of ridicule) comment here that OBJ was nothing to worry about to Randle owners. 

 

I'll find it.

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10 minutes ago, niner memories said:

I am less worried about the rookie who hasn't played yet(preseason Included) than the new target that has taken his place as the only big bodied receiver in the red zone.

Jesus...I was talking about the TE Donnell that had just scored a couple TDs.

 

Ugh.

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29 minutes ago, poofinger said:

Case Keenum limits his fantasy value.  The hype in here is comical.  You guys are comparing him to Beckham.   Ha-larious 

 

 

One person is comparing to OBJ.

 

He put up numbers with DT and now he has good opportunity.  Stock looking up, will see how pans out

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12 minutes ago, Tghetty said:

One person is comparing to OBJ.

 

He put up numbers with DT and now he has good opportunity.  Stock looking up, will see how pans out

Thanks for the nuance. This is the most objective perspective but it'll probably get you booed out of this forum. I love everything about Sutton and his arrow is definitely pointing up. Anyone feeling certain about anything more than that is likely doing a whole lot more hoping than projecting.

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He’s good enough to flex with the numbers he’s been putting up with DT there. That’s really all I ask for and anything on top of that is just icing. He’s obviously looking like a WR3 with WR2 potential. I’ll take that.

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56 minutes ago, poofinger said:

Case Keenum limits his fantasy value.  The hype in here is comical.  You guys are comparing him to Beckham.   Ha-larious 

 

 

 

That may have been true when he was the 3rd option, but now he's the 2nd option. Keenam proved last season he can support two WRs in the top 20.  Not saying he's going to end up in the top 20, but I think WR3 with WR2 upside is very attainable the rest of the way.

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6 minutes ago, Red Dog said:

 

That may have been true when he was the 3rd option, but now he's the 2nd option. Keenam proved last season he can support two WRs in the top 20.  Not saying he's going to end up in the top 20, but I think WR3 with WR2 upside is very attainable the rest of the way.

In my standard league, people like Sterling Shepard and Tyler Lockett are the bottom end of WR2s (12 team). No way I’m taking either of them over Sutton so I’m aggressive when I say he’s at least a WR2 w upside for a whole lot more. Brandon cooks is 15th in the same league, Smokie is 16th. I think he could potentially end up averaging more points than both players ROS

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1 hour ago, Red Dog said:

 

That may have been true when he was the 3rd option, but now he's the 2nd option. Keenam proved last season he can support two WRs in the top 20.  Not saying he's going to end up in the top 20, but I think WR3 with WR2 upside is very attainable the rest of the way.

 

 

Different coaches.   Can’t compare Keenum in Denver to Fluke Keenum in Minnesota 

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44 minutes ago, jclee4 said:

Is this guy gonna get the volume right away this weekend?

 

He should. He's ranked anywhere from the 20-42 WR this week with the overall consensus being #29 on FP for half point PPR. 

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1 hour ago, jclee4 said:

Is this guy gonna get the volume right away this weekend?

 

Unless the Texans decide to focus their middle of the pack pass defense on him rather than Sanders and randomly it's Tim Patrick becoming the beneficiary of DT being traded, yes he should absolutely get the volume right away.

 

Even then, Houston has allowed 15 passing TDs in 8 games, so Sutton could still have a great chance at a TD as a big time RZ target without too much volume. 

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We are one year out from the Case Keenum to Adam Theilen connection and the Case Keenum to Stefan Diggs connection - I mean, is he doing a better job with those tools than Cousins?  

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7 minutes ago, dudewithabadcat said:

We are one year out from the Case Keenum to Adam Theilen connection and the Case Keenum to Stefan Diggs connection - I mean, is he doing a better job with those tools than Cousins?  

I don't expect a huge bump due to the QB limitations. However, I think Courtland is a much bigger target and can actually help Keenum look better.

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1 hour ago, FitzMagic said:

I don't expect a huge bump due to the QB limitations. However, I think Courtland is a much bigger target and can actually help Keenum look better.

Wait he is a much bigger talent then the best WR in the NFL right now??? 

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2 hours ago, sunz0r said:

Everybody firing him up this week...? 

 

I'm not, but should be a decent flex option.

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2 hours ago, sunz0r said:

Everybody firing him up this week...? 

Yep, have TY on his bye and was lucky enough to land him on waivers this week. I’ve had my eye on him all year honestly and even rostered him a few times at the end of my bench. He was always my 1st cut when I needed to make a WW move though. I’m hoping for a 6/80 type of day and a crossing my fingers for a TD. Starting DHop too so I’ll be watching this game with both eyes. Houston’s offense has been putting up some points recently and the game script should be good for us Sutton owners.

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55 minutes ago, youngrice said:

Wait he is a much bigger talent then the best WR in the NFL right now??? 

When did I say that? Read my comment again.

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