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35 minutes ago, cashvillesent said:

 

 

The biggest joke here is you thinking only the Pats are smart enough to find some profound method of cheating and keep it under wraps for a decade while simultaneously getting caught for inconsequential things such as taping angles and allowing balls to deflate by 5% in cold weather.

 

So Belichick, in all his evil wisdom, is keeping some magical super dynasty creating cheating technique hidden from everyone but also willing to get caught doing borderline useless **** and having the NFL magnifying glass on them for everything?

 

Make sure you check under your bed for the boogyman tonight bud.

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35 minutes ago, BigBenTheSteelerMan said:

Dude, every team steals signals or whatever, and the other "cheats" you listed off are absurd. You're just coming off as a butt hurt brady hater. I honestly dont even understand the hate for him, he's an all around classy guy and one of the few guys who praises his team/teammates and doesn't talk a load of ****

 

Sorry amigo he is a walking Ken doll with the most questionable hair and clothing choices in all of NFL history. We all know his wife dresses him up to be a metrosexual boy toy. Classy is not the term i would use for him 🤣

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5 minutes ago, bhawks489 said:

How many other teams are caught? seems like its the patriots every other year in another scandal.

Like what scandals? Most recently it was for "deflating" footballs, which was bullshit in and of itself. Also most recently 2 other teams have tampered or have used non game standard footballs and nothing happened at all and nobody talked about it, because it wasn't the Patriots. No fines of 1 million dollars or loss of draft picks or even their kickers getting suspended 4 games like Brady did

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1 minute ago, BigBenTheSteelerMan said:

Like what scandals? Most recently it was for "deflating" footballs, which was bullshit in and of itself. Also most recently 2 other teams have tampered or have used non game standard footballs and nothing happened at all and nobody talked about it, because it wasn't the Patriots. No fines of 1 million dollars or loss of draft picks or even their kickers getting suspended 4 games like Brady did

"Other teams do it too" isnt a good excuse. Its a Whataboutism.

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6 minutes ago, bhawks489 said:

How many other teams are caught? seems like its the patriots every other year in another scandal.

 

Atlanta with artificial crowd noise at home. Is making it too loud for the opposing offense to hear plays not a slight competitive edge?

 

Mike Tomlin literally attempting to trip Jacoby Jones returning a kickoff down the sideline. Oh but that wasn't the Patriots and it was funny haha

 

Also a quick google search turned up this https://www.bucsnation.com/2012/10/1/3437246/bucs-cheat-redskins-how-headset-cheating-is-hurting-the-nfl but it's the Bucs and they're not winning enough for anyone to care lol

 

Non-Patriots teams getting caught doesn't make for good headlines.

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1 minute ago, dashoe said:

 

Sorry amigo he is a walking Ken doll with the most questionable hair and clothing choices in all of NFL history. We all know his wife dresses him up to be a metrosexual boy toy. Classy is not the term i would use for him 🤣

Haha cam newton takes the cake there! 🤣🤣

 

Hes classy because hes a team player, doesnt **** talk, leads by example, isnt a diva, praises his teammates, never runs his mouth, and takes pay cuts to help get a better surrounding cast...

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Just now, sSektor said:

 

Atlanta with artificial crowd noise at home. Is making it too loud for the opposing offense to hear plays not a slight competitive edge?

 

Mike Tomlin literally attempting to trip Jacoby Jones returning a kickoff down the sideline. Oh but that wasn't the Patriots and it was funny haha

 

Also a quick google search turned up this https://www.bucsnation.com/2012/10/1/3437246/bucs-cheat-redskins-how-headset-cheating-is-hurting-the-nfl but it's the Bucs and they're not winning enough for anyone to care lol

 

Non-Patriots teams getting caught doesn't make for good headlines.

And they should be punished. But when the patriots are caught up in scandal after scandal its time to take away draft picks or else they will keep trying to do it. I get it though, fans will defend their team to the death. 

 

I kinda wish the bears would try it. At least they might start winning some games

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1 minute ago, bhawks489 said:

"Other teams do it too" isnt a good excuse. Its a Whataboutism.

Its not a whataboutism when being used to prove a point that the narratives "the Patriots are cheaters" while simultaneously ignoring other cheats

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Just now, BigBenTheSteelerMan said:

Haha cam newton takes the cake there! 🤣🤣

 

Hes classy because hes a team player, doesnt **** talk, leads by example, isnt a diva, praises his teammates, never runs his mouth, and takes pay cuts to help get a better surrounding cast...

 

Ok yes you nailed it and win this point. Cam wearing a headscarf as if he was a fashion model or an old woman from an Eastern European village set the bar for the next 100 years 😂

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Just now, BigBenTheSteelerMan said:

Its not a whataboutism when being used to prove a point that the narratives "the Patriots are cheaters" while simultaneously ignoring other cheats

Thats literally the point. lmao

 

We are in the patriots thread talking about them cheating and you and this other dude are saying "But what about these other teams! they cheat too" Then go to their thread and bring it up.

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1 minute ago, bhawks489 said:

I kinda wish the bears would try it. At least they might start winning some games

 

Kinda bold to assume that a league with coaching job security in it's current state doesn't have HC trying to bend the rules as much as they possibly can.

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Just now, bhawks489 said:

Thats literally the point. lmao

 

We are in the patriots thread talking about them cheating and you and this other dude are saying "But what about these other teams! they cheat too" Then go to their thread and bring it up.

And you only hate them because they win. Im not even a Patriots fan lol if you didn't get the memo, i follow the Steelers. I just like brady and respect what hes done, snd think hes a great qb getting unnecessarily bashed 

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To be fair Brady's clothing choices do say rich a**hole. But a lot of players around the league think highly of him, even the CTE posterboy AB.

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4 hours ago, sSektor said:

 

Kinda bold to assume that a league with coaching job security in it's current state doesn't have HC trying to bend the rules as much as they possibly can.

 

Nagy believes in his own genius, guys like that would never cheat because they think they are more clever than everyone else.  It's never his faullt but it's the players not EXECUTING that is the problem 🤣

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11 hours ago, BigBenTheSteelerMan said:

And you only hate them because they win. Im not even a Patriots fan lol if you didn't get the memo, i follow the Steelers. I just like brady and respect what hes done, snd think hes a great qb getting unnecessarily bashed 

So shifting from “other teams do it too” to “you just hate them because they are good” 

 

ok buddy. Anything to deflect from the real issue. 

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12 hours ago, bhawks489 said:

How many other teams are caught? seems like its the patriots every other year in another scandal.

Do you honestly think this latest scandal actually was intended and implemented to give the Patriots an advantage ? 

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5 minutes ago, shakestreet said:

Do you honestly think this latest scandal actually was intended and implemented to give the Patriots an advantage ? 

I don’t care if cheating is an accident or on purpose. It’s happening a lot 

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13 minutes ago, bhawks489 said:

I don’t care if cheating is an accident or on purpose. It’s happening a lot 

 

It's happened 3 times and the most recent 2 look like complete bullshit. Considering how big of a story the original Spygate snowballed into are you surprised teams are willing to bring up anything the Pats do that they think is suspicious?

 

There's still zero proof of this perceived holy grail cheating method that created the Patriots as we know them. No punishment given to them fits this imagined crime people use to rationalize why they dominated the league for this long.

 

And also anyone remember this conveniently forgotten piece of information? https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=3151217

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Oh the NFL didn't find anything? Shocker

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11 minutes ago, sSektor said:

 

It's happened 3 times and the most recent 2 look like complete bullshit. Considering how big of a story the original Spygate snowballed into are you surprised teams are willing to bring up anything the Pats do that they think is suspicious?

 

There's still zero proof of this perceived holy grail cheating method that created the Patriots as we know them. No punishment given to them fits this imagined crime people use to rationalize why they dominated the league for this long.

 

And also anyone remember this conveniently forgotten piece of information? https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=3151217

Go into the Jets thread if you want to talk about their cheating. You keep bringing up other teams as if that’s a good excuse 

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1 minute ago, dmb3684 said:

Oh the NFL didn't find anything? Shocker

 

They're still going to get a fine and lose a draft pick. Why? Because the media would be outraged if they didn't.

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1 hour ago, bhawks489 said:

I don’t care if cheating is an accident or on purpose. It’s happening a lot 

Winning brings out all the conspiracy nuts who keep spewing these conspiracies. The Patriots win because they cheat.

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24 minutes ago, shakestreet said:

Winning brings out all the conspiracy nuts who keep spewing these conspiracies. The Patriots win because they cheat.

Does it?

No one thinks the Warriors cheat.

No one thinks Lebron cheats.

No one thinks Duke cheats

No one thinks Clemson cheats

The only team that has a massive amount of the population think they cheat is the Patriots. Probably because they have. FTR I think the entire thing is overblown and saying the Patriots win because of cheating is a stretch. However, acting like there's no truth to it and they've gained no edge from bending the rules is also a stretch. The entire argument of "People only hate because they're good" is an extremely weak cop out. 

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1 hour ago, Gohawks said:

Does it?

No one thinks the Warriors cheat.

No one thinks Lebron cheats.

No one thinks Duke cheats

No one thinks Clemson cheats

The only team that has a massive amount of the population think they cheat is the Patriots. Probably because they have. FTR I think the entire thing is overblown and saying the Patriots win because of cheating is a stretch. However, acting like there's no truth to it and they've gained no edge from bending the rules is also a stretch. The entire argument of "People only hate because they're good" is an extremely weak cop out. 

 

 

In a game of literally inches, every little edge over the opponent makes a difference 😉

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