Popular Post AngelsFan03 21 Posted August 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, mevins31 said: The only thing I ever wondered about was how he got an 80 hit tool; first ever. And even though he looks awesome, I still wonder it. to me that seems a product of some great talent, hype, and last name/pedigree. Someone in scouting gave him that for those reasons. Good for the sport that he’s looking better though Are you really trying to say your only criticism was that his hit tool isn't an 80? Talk about revisionist. You flat out said his swing doesn't look like it plays up to big league stuff 2 weeks ago. On 7/15/2019 at 11:07 AM, mevins31 said: I don’t so much care about the stats. But when you watch him, doesn’t look like a swing that plays up to big league stuff. He is slow to the ball and a lot of sloppy swings. Tons of soft contact and roll overs. He’s not driving the ball. I am not piling on, even a few of his HR are awkward like they aren’t getting a ton of backspin Edited August 2, 2019 by AngelsFan03 10 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Whom 3,014 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Is he going to sit today? He usually does after big games... 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gryfter 1,039 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Such an exciting and polarizing player. Even when hes hot, fans and his fantasy owners will argue endlessly about his weight, scouts given hit tool rating from years ago, launch angle and surrounding cast on fantasy forums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brockpapersizer 11,408 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Gryfter said: Such an exciting and polarizing player. Even when hes hot, fans and his fantasy owners will argue endlessly about his weight, scouts given hit tool rating from years ago, launch angle and surrounding cast on fantasy forums. Ironically, the analysis on him genuinely seems should be incredibly straight forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brooklyn Dude 473 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Continuing to hate on Vlad is becoming silly. After a slow start his numbers continue to improve to very respectable in his rookie season, age 20. His future looks incredibly bright and I look forward to some big seasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mevins31 1,285 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I said he was swinging more aggressively. Then he went on a tear Quote Link to post Share on other sites
20Duval904 141 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr. Whom said: Is he going to sit today? He usually does after big games... If Montoya tries to sit him this weekend, I’m driving to Baltimore and changing the lineup card myself. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crotchcrickets 3,159 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MSkibisky 776 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, crotchcrickets said: Boomshakalaka 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sportsfreak2744 761 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 16 hours ago, mevins31 said: The only thing I ever wondered about was how he got an 80 hit tool; first ever. And even though he looks awesome, I still wonder it. to me that seems a product of some great talent, hype, and last name/pedigree. Someone in scouting gave him that for those reasons. Good for the sport that he’s looking better though Who said he had an 80 hit tool? Fangraphs has him at 65 hit tool now, 70 future. (He does have an 88% zone contact rate and 78% contact rate overall.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sportsfreak2744 761 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 14 hours ago, mevins31 said: I have scoured their levels pretty close. they don’t have a ton aside from Vlad himself, Gurriel jr. Bichette, Biggio who is fringe, Jansen. Honestly no great prospects. They have a long ways to go. He’s going to be on a lot of losing teams. Hopefully it doesn’t permeate his performance Well if Vlad is what he is expected to be, a Miguel Cabrera type bat, they won't need much aside from Vlad himself, will they? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MSkibisky 776 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, sportsfreak2744 said: (He does have an 88% zone contact rate and 78% contact rate overall.) This, coupled with the fact that he's like 12 years old make for a promising future, despite however you want to label his start. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonycpsu 5,216 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, sportsfreak2744 said: Who said he had an 80 hit tool? https://www.minorleagueball.com/2017/9/3/16245376/ranking-the-five-best-farm-systems-hitters Quote 2. Toronto Blue Jays-The Blue Jays don’t have the depth of the White Sox, but this is by far the most exciting group of bats in the minors. Just this past Friday, Baseball America’s John Manuel suggested 80 power and 80 hit for Vladimir Guerrero Jr. https://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2018/7/19/17590928/two-blue-jays-on-keith-laws-top-50-prospects Quote Guerrero’s bat belongs in the big leagues and it’s the best in the minors, bar none. It’s an 80 hit tool, and because he’s so strong and his hands are so quick, it’s 80 power, too. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Von Hayes 232 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) tony beat me to it... Edited August 2, 2019 by Von Hayes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sportsfreak2744 761 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I hadn't realized some were giving him an 80 hit tool as well. Thanks for sharing. If he does, it hasn't translated yet (obviously). But things are looking up: https://www.fangraphs.com/graphs.aspx?playerid=19611&position=3B&statArr=106,107,44&legend=1,2,3&split=base&time=game&ymin=&ymax=&start=2019&end=2019&rtype=mult>1=15&dStatArray= Contact rates up, groundball rate down Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy_Slippers 3,896 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I think he has a chance to be a better hitter than Acuna. He won't strike out as much and will probably walk at a higher clip. Acuna has a lot more speed, but I can see Vladdy being a top 3 hitter at some point. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
20Duval904 141 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, Fuzzy_Slippers said: I think he has a chance to be a better hitter than Acuna. He won't strike out as much and will probably walk at a higher clip. Acuna has a lot more speed, but I can see Vladdy being a top 3 hitter at some point. Both are gonna be top 3-5 players for a very long time. The game is in good hands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mevins31 1,285 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Fuzzy_Slippers said: I think he has a chance to be a better hitter than Acuna. He won't strike out as much and will probably walk at a higher clip. Acuna has a lot more speed, but I can see Vladdy being a top 3 hitter at some point. Much bigger offensive upside but can’t be a 10 WAR guy like Acuna Bc no defense to get there. Of course what do any of us care about defense Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fiveohnine 1,496 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 ^We do care about SBs though. Those are going to give Acuna a pretty big head start over this guy in fantasy for the foreseeable future. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mevins31 1,285 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 9 hours ago, sportsfreak2744 said: Well if Vlad is what he is expected to be, a Miguel Cabrera type bat, they won't need much aside from Vlad himself, will they? Those tigers teams had Magglio and a lot of other weapons around Miggy. And some pitching. Want to see Vlad play on some winning teams and the blue jays win. It’s good for the sport Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emcllns 26 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Vlad will be the #1 fantasy producer next year... And a few after. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cmilne23 10,544 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, emcllns said: Vlad will be the #1 fantasy producer next year... And a few after. No he won’t. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
20Duval904 141 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 So far tonight he’s got an RBI single, a R scored and a walk. His AB’s have become much better. His confidence is apparent. He’s not chasing like he was early on. The talk of him pressing seemed legit. But he’s not doing that now. It’s fun to watch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Denbo32 234 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 hours ago, emcllns said: Vlad will be the #1 fantasy producer next year... And a few after. with 0 stolen bases that's really hard. Top 10 sure but number 1 not really Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ItsMeMario 119 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Heating up against Rookie ball pitchers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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