DerrickHenrysCleats 5,838 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sivaro said: Jalen is better at that. No, he isn't. Jalen is just what you have seen. How many college games of Josh Jacobs did you watch? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sivaro 943 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, DerrickHenrysCleats said: No, he isn't. Jalen is just what you have seen. How many college games of Josh Jacobs did you watch? None But, Jacobs cant be out for EVERY snap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DerrickHenrysCleats 5,838 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sivaro said: None But, Jacobs cant be out for EVERY snap. No, he can't. The idea that 8 man boxes would affect Josh Jacobs that much is a misnomer. He is an excellent pass blocker and receiver so you can expect him to get as many opportunities as he can handle. Edited September 7, 2019 by DerrickHenrysCleats 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lvsaint429 1,774 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Jacobs is gonna be a legit 3-down back. No competition for carries, also catches well. He’s been taking almost all of the 1st team reps so he’s gonna be out there most of the time. I can see 18 touches, 85 total yards, possibly a TD too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jsch08 267 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 What are we projecting for a 16 game season with Brown out? 250 carries/950 yards and 60 catches/425 yards 6-8 touchdowns? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lvsaint429 1,774 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, jsch08 said: What are we projecting for a 16 game season with Brown out? 250 carries/950 yards and 60 catches/425 yards 6-8 touchdowns? A little low in the rushing (breaks 1000) a little high in the receiving (50 catches max) 8-10 TD’s. Think he finishes around 280 touches 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngrice 1,303 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Saw a stat 10 out of the 11 past first round RB's finished as a top 10 RB in fantasy. Lets hope he makes is 11 out of 12. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blabety 141 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Is JJ better or worse without AB? Any comparison to Saquon with/without OBJ? Edited September 7, 2019 by blabety Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jsch08 267 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, blabety said: Is JJ better or worse without AB? Any comparison to Saquon with/without OBJ? Id guess worse because the offense will be worse as a whole but I’m still not too worried. I’m a believer in Jacobs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blabety 141 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, jsch08 said: Id guess worse because the offense will be worse as a whole but I’m still not too worried. I’m a believer in Jacobs. I get that too, but I feel like AB being who he is, Carr would've had to at least targeted him 10 times to make him happy. Now 3 of those targets can be check downs I'm guessing more opportunities and yardage without AB, but less TDs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brye 399 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Hey out of all the rookie rbs this dude is a guaranteed lock 🔒 for 15+ touches a game, same can’t be said for any other rookie rb this year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CABLE87 1,749 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, blabety said: Is JJ better or worse without AB? Any comparison to Saquon with/without OBJ? Probably worse, teams are going to make Carr beat them and the o line is suspect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LongBalls 1,193 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, blabety said: Is JJ better or worse without AB? Any comparison to Saquon with/without OBJ? TD upside's clearly lower, but he'll probably get way more work without AB. The Raiders offense now basically has to run through Jacobs. If he can stay healthy the volume should be monstrous. Edited September 7, 2019 by LongBalls Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArmLikeACannon 46 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 40 minutes ago, youngrice said: Saw a stat 10 out of the 11 past first round RB's finished as a top 10 RB in fantasy. Lets hope he makes is 11 out of 12. I've never looked for myself but this would make sense. RB's have become pretty devalued around the league. 1st round picks are absolute massive investments. I imagine teams feel alot dumber whiffing on a RB in the 1st round rather than say a WR. Also add in that the earlier years of a RB back's career tend to be the most valuable and it just doesn't make sense to draft a RB in the 1st round if your not going to use them as a bellcow. Someone like Rashad Penny is a huge outlier. It takes the perfect storm like Pete Carroll, and a much better back on the roster. Investing a 1st round pick, doesn't have alot of mileage on his legs, there isn't another inbetween the tackles runner on the roster, I just don't see how he doesn't get a crazy amount of volume. Even if he sucks. That leads to fantasy points. Hot take but this AB stuff is good news for Jacobs IMO. Won't have him bitching for targets/creating drama all season. Made Mayock/Raiders look really stupid. Neither are going to want there 1st round pick to get 150-200 touches and have a forgettable year. Now that AB is gone I think your going to see the Raiders run the ball more, and alot of checkdown's/short passes where Carr excels. RB's benefit when a target hog WR leaves. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corleone 1,961 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, youngrice said: Saw a stat 10 out of the 11 past first round RB's finished as a top 10 RB in fantasy. Lets hope he makes is 11 out of 12. It's 7 of the past 11 in full PPR, going back to the 2012 Draft. RB1 as a rookie Yes: Saquon, Fournette, CMC, Zeke, Gurley, T.Richardson, D.MartinRB1 as a rookie No: Penny, Michel, M.Gordon, D.Wilson (none of them were an RB2 either) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Singing in Dwayne 313 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 52 minutes ago, CABLE87 said: Probably worse, teams are going to make Carr beat them and the o line is suspect Their OL is fine. Jacobs outlook is hurt because the offense will be much worse without Brown opening up the field though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArmLikeACannon 46 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Michel had injury issues, Penny/Wilson got stuck behind better RB's, and M.Gordon is a good call all tho I do remember him also having some injury issues. If Jacobs struggles with his health than yeah there will be trouble. Lynch/Martin combined for 262 carries, 1099 yards, 7 TD's + 33 receptions, 200 yards. That's not taking into account Richard/Washington's 85 carries/68 receptions. Richard is still getting those looks IMO. If Jacobs stays healthy I just don't see how he doesn't get a crazy workload. Martin/Lynch were on there last legs last year. If Jacobs is good he'll be a RB1 IMO, if he's average/below average he'll be an inconsistent RB2 with some RB1 weeks off sheer volume. If he's bad he'll still be in the flex conversation just because of his volume. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngrice 1,303 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Corleone said: It's 7 of the past 11 in full PPR, going back to the 2012 Draft. RB1 as a rookie Yes: Saquon, Fournette, CMC, Zeke, Gurley, T.Richardson, D.MartinRB1 as a rookie No: Penny, Michel, M.Gordon, D.Wilson (none of them were an RB2 either) So every RB that got starter workload finished as a top 10 RB. I don't see how Jacobs doesn't see at least 220 carries and 30 rec. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlayTheWaivers 1,886 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 He's gonna get all the run he can handle. AB gone freed up 130 targets. Won't be surprised if Jacobs catches 50-60 balls this year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eaglesflyhigh11 450 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 5 hours ago, PlayTheWaivers said: He's gonna get all the run he can handle. AB gone freed up 130 targets. Won't be surprised if Jacobs catches 50-60 balls this year I can only hope Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sivaro 943 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) Jacobs and Jalen Richards are going to get passed to a lot more often now. The only proven commodity is WR Tyrell Williams ( a career number 2 receiver). Renfrow may get some, and Waller, but, both are raw at the positions they are in. I See this being a big + for the RB's Edited September 8, 2019 by Sivaro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NyZD 148 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Sivaro said: Jacobs and Jalen Richards are going to get passed to a lot more often now. The only proven commodity is WR Tyrell Richards( a career number 2 receiver). Renflow may get some, and Waller, but, both are raw at the positions they are in. I See this being a big + for the RB's Tyrell Williams, but yeah I can get behind these points.. Jacobs may have a lower TD total and lower YPC( Not that its relevant to fantasy) possibly with more stacked boxes but the sheer volume should even it out. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngrice 1,303 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 12 hours ago, DerrickHenrysCleats said: No, he isn't. Jalen is just what you have seen. How many college games of Josh Jacobs did you watch? At this point yes he is. But doesn't matter anyway. Jacobs was drafted to be a 3 down RB something Jalen will never be. As long as Jacobs is a decent to good receiving back the threat of him rushing should keep him on the field over Jalen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrfrood 662 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Matt Forte rookie year upside here. I am glad I got him in my main league. I am really looking forward to watching him on Monday night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buzzkilloton 248 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Hes going to be the focal point of the Raiders offense. He may not get alot of TD's but the usage is going to be insane. Gotta feel good about him as your RB2 going into week 1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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