FinsUp24 519 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, Bronco Billy said: So you’re expecting other Ds to let him run free on routes out of the backfield? This is part of the problem with OAK losing Brown. You’ll see better coverage roll down, especially with Ty Williams and Waller being the only two guys that really throw any significant concern to opposing D backfields. Hopefully you’re willing to concede that there is a middle ground between being defended “extremely well” out of the backfield and running free routes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dfstout 1,864 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) Idk i mean the kid goes out against a Vic Fangio (2018 Bears) led Broncos defense and puts up a Hundo plus and 2 pay dirts....hmmm...in his first NFL game...hmmmmmmmmmmm...😁 Edited September 10, 2019 by dfstout 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bronco Billy 324 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, nmartinez12443 said: I thought he looked pretty great especially on his catch. You could also look at this way denver was supposed and imo still does have a top 3 def. The raiders are missing two stud lineman which along with an already very impressive line. Carr looked good. Waller and williams are decent enough. They do have a brutal schedule worst ive seen in the first 6 weeks. 2- chiefs great, but they will be down. 3- Top 5 run def 4- colts- good match up but they will probably be down. 5- Bears- worst possible match up 6- Packers- Def looked legit 7- Houston- Not bad 8-Lions- Not bad 9- Chargers- Not bad 10- Bengals- Not bad 11- Jets- Not bad 12- Chiefs 13- Titans 14- Jags- probably gave up by now, no qb 15- chargers. 16-Broncos DEN had the fewest TFLs in the NFL week 1. Worse than MIA, if you can believe that. They have a D built to rush the QB, but they do not have many players with much strength against the run. I’m expecting DEN to be one of the worst run Ds in the NFL this year. They have a glaring weakness right up the middle of their D and they do not have edge setters. Time will tell if I’m wrong, but this D looks highly overrated to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bronco Billy 324 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, FinsUp24 said: Hopefully you’re willing to concede that there is a middle ground between being defended “extremely well” out of the backfield and running free routes Yeah, and I expect him to be accounted for in the passing game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LongBalls 1,193 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) Jacobs looked good, but the better news is the Raiders offensive line looked serviceable and Carr looked like he could actually play QB again. If Waller and Williams can provide some semblance of a passing game there is some nice upside here. And they're gonna run this guy till his legs fall off. Edited September 10, 2019 by LongBalls Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ludawg23 1,982 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Arrow is definitely pointing up. True bell cow and once Gabe Jackson and Incognito return, that will be a fantastic O-line. I don't think the Raiders will play that well all year but his workload looks unquestioned at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DerrickHenrysCleats 5,838 Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 Saquon Barkleys 1st NFL game: 18 carries, 106 yards and a TD and 2 catches for 22 yards. Christian McCaffreys 1st NFL game: 13 carries for 47 yards and 5 catches for 38 yards. Josh Jacobs 1st game: 23 carries for 85 yards and 2 TDs and 1 catch for 28 yards. 😎 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pushaZ 1,374 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, DerrickHenrysCleats said: Saquon Barkleys 1st NFL game: 18 carries, 106 yards and a TD and 2 catches for 22 yards. Christian McCaffreys 1st NFL game: 13 carries for 47 yards and 5 catches for 38 yards. Josh Jacobs 1st game: 23 carries for 85 yards and 2 TDs and 1 catch for 28 yards. 😎 What was Derrick Henry's first game 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DerrickHenrysCleats 5,838 Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, pushaZ said: What was Derrick Henry's first game What does that matter? Try to stay on subject. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
egolam 37 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, DerrickHenrysCleats said: What does that matter? Try to stay on subject. It matters as much as CMC & Barkley first game stats i'd guess 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DerrickHenrysCleats 5,838 Posted September 11, 2019 Author Share Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, egolam said: It matters as much as CMC & Barkley first game stats i'd guess Comparing 1st round RBs and their debuts. Henry wasn't a first rounder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bronco Billy 324 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 3 hours ago, DerrickHenrysCleats said: Saquon Barkleys 1st NFL game: 18 carries, 106 yards and a TD and 2 catches for 22 yards. Christian McCaffreys 1st NFL game: 13 carries for 47 yards and 5 catches for 38 yards. Josh Jacobs 1st game: 23 carries for 85 yards and 2 TDs and 1 catch for 28 yards. 😎 You’re comparing Jacobs to Barkley and McCaffrey? Do you even watch football? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dfstout 1,864 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 44 minutes ago, DerrickHenrysCleats said: Comparing 1st round RBs and their debuts. Henry wasn't a first rounder. Burnnnn...i like it! JJ allll day Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K197040 2,412 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I'm a little concerned with this latest Oakland injury. Hopefully, Jacobs will also be a big part of the pass catching on third down. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HooDat 115 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 9:38 PM, Bronco Billy said: You’re comparing Jacobs to Barkley and McCaffrey? Do you even watch football? Right?! Obviously Barkley and McCaffrey couldn't even hold Jacobs' jock strap Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MJJ28 1,124 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) On 9/10/2019 at 3:28 AM, Bronco Billy said: He is what he was in the preseason. He gets what is blocked for him and nothing more. When OAK plays against teams that are more stout in the front 7 against the run he’s going to struggle. But he’ll be a good FF on volume. Gruden is clearly not going to give anyone but him the rushes. If he holds up he’ll have a good FF season, but I have a feeling there are going to be some clunkers in there when he’s up against a stronger run D and he’s held out of the end zone. He’s got kind of a Trent Richardson feel for me right now. This is kind of what I saw. He definitely physically looks the part, he is jacked. And he had some runs where he dragged defenders a few yards, but I didn’t really see anything that wowed me or made me think he is an outlier talent. No moves or cuts or speed that popped off the screen, mostly just running into guys. Kind of reminds me of Mark ingram where he can do everything pretty well, but nothing elite. Should be good enough for fantasy though. Edited September 12, 2019 by MJJ28 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DerrickHenrysCleats 5,838 Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 Jacobs is efficient, and he stands as the first rookie to total 100-plus yards from scrimmage and two touchdowns in his NFL debut since LaDainian Tomlinson did it in 2002. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K197040 2,412 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, DerrickHenrysCleats said: Jacobs is efficient, and he stands as the first rookie to total 100-plus yards from scrimmage and two touchdowns in his NFL debut since LaDainian Tomlinson did it in 2002. How does this speak to his efficiency? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peleincubus 110 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, DerrickHenrysCleats said: Jacobs is efficient, and he stands as the first rookie to total 100-plus yards from scrimmage and two touchdowns in his NFL debut since LaDainian Tomlinson did it in 2002. I really like Jacobs. It's fun having a rookie on your team and watching him kick a** when other people passed on him. In saying that... see Kareem Hunt's first game two seasons ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sSektor 2,191 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) On 9/10/2019 at 6:18 PM, DerrickHenrysCleats said: Saquon Barkleys 1st NFL game: 18 carries, 106 yards and a TD and 2 catches for 22 yards. Christian McCaffreys 1st NFL game: 13 carries for 47 yards and 5 catches for 38 yards. Josh Jacobs 1st game: 23 carries for 85 yards and 2 TDs and 1 catch for 28 yards. 😎 Where's Kareem Hunt on this list 246 total yards and 3 TDs Edited September 12, 2019 by sSektor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DerrickHenrysCleats 5,838 Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, sSektor said: Where's Kareem Hunt on this list Was he a 1st round RB? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EaglesRocker97 210 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 What's the general assessment on KC run D? I know they were pretty weak last year. Has that changed much? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jsch08 267 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: What's the general assessment on KC run D? I know they were pretty weak last year. Has that changed much? Who knows. They aren’t an amazing defense. Worry playing the Chiefs is gamescript. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EaglesRocker97 210 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, jsch08 said: Who knows. They aren’t an amazing defense. Worry playing the Chiefs is gamescript. Normally, I would, too. But it seems that Jacobs will stay on the field for passing downs, right? Also, no Hill should keep this game closer. Raiders are at home, defense looked decent enough last week, and as an overall team, they might be a little underrated. Edited September 15, 2019 by EaglesRocker97 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jsch08 267 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Normally, I would, too. But it seems that Jacobs will stay on the field for passing downs, right? Also, no Hill should keep this game closer. Raiders are at home, defense looked decent enough last week, and as an overall team, they might be a little underrated. I agree with you. I’m not sitting Jacobs for sure. I think Jacobs is a rock solid rb2 plug and play with rb1 upside. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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