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He's Devante Parker but only with a little more hype and expectations. When a rook can come in and immediately supplant him as the #1, maybe the problem is indeed him and not Mariota.

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#Trash. Overrated talent, subpar quarterback, anemic offense, crowded receiver corps, play-calling geared towards the run. Easy Drop

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Corey Davis - A Fantasy Story: Past and Present

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With Mariota (aka "Corey Davis killer", OR, more granularly, as referred to in some circles "The leading man who stars in the Razzie award winning rom-com saga Where all Tennessee Titans Pass-Catchers go to Die") now finally seemingly on the outs, in favor of being pushed aside for Ryan Tannehill, who, although no world-beater himself, inarguably more palatable than Marcus friggin' Mariota, if for no other reason than his simply being a human person that is someone other than Marcus Mariota....

for anyone not yet in the crux of their bye weeks -- which, with a good number of fantasy relevant teams not sporting bye weeks until the latter portions of the 2019 bye season, would include many a fantasy managers -- it would probably be a shrewd move to scoop this guy up now on the cheap (that guy being Corey Davis; whom I imagine by now is almost undoubtedly universally available across all relatively standard re-draft leagues) as a no risk, no cost "roster for a week or two and let's see if anything becomes of this" tail end of the bench stash. 

As is common knowledge, with 2 and 1/2 season's of overwhelming evidence that support this notion, Corey Davis was more or less invisible with Mariota at the helm. We're talking worthless. And I mean bad. Like, bad, bad.

However, with Ryan Tannehill behind center for the Titans (I know, I know; but hang on, just hear me out), which, so long as Mike Vrabel doesn't suddenly morph into Stevie Wonder with a serious case of amnesia (or replaced by the actual Stevie Wonder, who wouldn't necessarily need to have amnesia, but rather just not have been following the NFL all that much these past 2 and 1/2 years), appears poised to be the new reality beginning next Sunday in week 7 when the Titans travel to London to take on the Chargers (where the Titans hopefully, quite possibly, and disingenuously so, have not lead on to Mariota that the little 2019 pocket schedule in which was inevitably handed out to him at the start of training camp - a pocket schedule that would make their week 7 matchup with the Chargers appear as nothing other than merely a standard home date - that this game is in fact taking place overseas in London; thus leaving Mariota to assume - just as anyone would in such a given scenario - said week 7 tilt vs the Chargers is to be played in Nashville)....it would still fall within the realm of possibilities, I suppose, that Corey Davis could become an occasional, or perhaps even eventual WR-3 / Flex, with a chance to touch-on WR-2 in a given week a time or two in the most optimal / fortuitous set of circumstances....Perhaps. Maybe. As unlikely as it is.

Next 4 on the slate for the Titans: Chargers (in London), Tampa, @Carolina, Kansas City.  Worse 4 game slates have existed.  

And I mean, dude did receive 4 targets from Tannehill yesterday (catching 3 of them for 36 yards) in the one half of football Tannehill was thrust out there for. As ho-hum as that type of action would appear to be on the surface, pathetically enough, that's the type of one half's-worth of targets & production stuff that only unicorns and rainbows were made of for the otherwise talented Davis when it was Mariota working the pigskin (or Blaine Gabbert. Him too) . Just sayin' 

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10 hours ago, Chest-Rockwell said:

With Mariota (aka "Corey Davis killer", OR, more granularly, as referred to in some circles "The leading man who stars in the Razzie award winning rom-com saga Where all Tennessee Titans Pass-Catchers go to Die") now finally seemingly on the outs, in favor of being pushed aside for Ryan Tannehill, who, although no world-beater himself, inarguably more palatable than Marcus friggin' Mariota, if for no other reason than his simply being a human person that is someone other than Marcus Mariota....

 

Is Tannehill confirmed to start on Sunday? 

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9 hours ago, yahyahtrick said:

 

Is Tannehill confirmed to start on Sunday? 

 

Yesterday afternoon it was reported Vrabel said the team will decide on its starting quarterback Monday night. If that report is accurate, it means Vrabel made his decision last night. Now, if Vrabel did indeed make this decision last night, it'd be nice if he'd, ya know, go ahead and inform us of this decision, and I imagine, eventually, he probably will; however, to this point, he's yet to have done so.

Silly if you ask me. The Titans have a playoff caliber defense. And on offense, Derrick Henry is has the build to take on a heavy workload, while Corey Davis has the measurables and ball skills to be an impact receiver in this league. A relatively competent a quarterback makes this team a threat to make it out of the AFC; albeit a moderate threat, but a threat nonetheless. However, a relatively competent NFL QB, Marcus Mariota is not. To be sure, Ryan Tannehill might not be either; and if I'm being honest, more likely than not, he isn't. Yet, with Tannehill, we cannot say with certainty yet, one way or another. 

Mariota on the other hand? Everyone and their mother knows Marcus Mariota ain't worth a lick as a starting NFL quarterback. In fact, I think even my great Aunt Lakey knows this, even though in the 96 years she lived on this planet, I don't she ever once tuned into an NFL game, let alone kept up with the ongoings with Tennessee Titans signal caller. And I say these things in the past tense because she's been dead for about a year now; yet, even still, she knows Marcus Mariota ain't worth a damn lick as a starting NFL quarterback.

Nice guy I hear, this Mariota fella; and I'm sure he'd make for a great customer service rep; and as such, he seems athletic enough to me that I'd be willing to wager he'd be one hell of an intramural league quarterback for just about any general customer service intramural football league that exists in this country, from sea to shining sea.

But circling back to your original question:  at this juncture, no, we don't yet know who will be throwing footballs to Corey Davis this week, as it's still yet to have been announced.

Actually, I should probably rephrase that...

Because what we DO know is, whether the Titans starting QB this week winds up being Marcus Mariota or Ryan Tannehill, under no circumstances will Mariota be throwing any footballs to Corey Davis. Now, at one point or another Mariota might soft toss a couple balls harmlessly into the turf that one could argue were "pass attempts" aimed towards the general vicinity of where Corey Davis was standing...

But the actual act of Marcus Mariota throwing a football to Corey Davis?...No sir, that will not be happening; not by any measure.

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How much of an upgrade does Corey get with Tannehill taking over?  I dropped him early in the year.  Tannehill looked better than Mariota in the preseason and certainly in yesterday's action.

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9 minutes ago, Brownsfan74 said:

How much of an upgrade does Corey get with Tannehill taking over?  I dropped him early in the year.  Tannehill looked better than Mariota in the preseason and certainly in yesterday's action.

 

He has been upgraded from a player not worth a roster spot to an add and wait and see. If Tannehill decides Davis is the guy he wants to lock on to, he has WR1 potential. If Tannehill doesn't lock on to Davis, however, it will only be slight improvement over Mariota.

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4 minutes ago, MJJ28 said:

 

He has been upgraded from a player not worth a roster spot to an add and wait and see. If Tannehill decides Davis is the guy he wants to lock on to, he has WR1 potential. If Tannehill doesn't lock on to Davis, however, it will only be slight improvement over Mariota.

 

Yeah, he's worth a speculative add if he's on your waiver and you have room, just to see what happens.  Definitely don't think you put him in your lineup yet, especially since they play the Chargers.

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5 minutes ago, Brownsfan74 said:

How much of an upgrade does Corey get with Tannehill taking over?  I dropped him early in the year.  Tannehill looked better than Mariota in the preseason and certainly in yesterday's action.

 

That's the million dollar question; the answer to which, I don't believe anyone knows yet. To find out the answer to this question, the first step in the process, or this "quest" if you will, is contingent on Mike Vrabel anointing Ryan Tannehill the starting quarterback. And it wouldn't even have to be a permanent anointment. Just giving Tannehill A game as the predetermined starter, and the week's worth of first team practice reps and game-planning that come along with that would be a nice start. I think just a singular start for him would go along ways towards shedding light onto that question.  And hopefully Vrabel complies in regards to this first step; and hopefully he does so beginning this week.

But until Vrabel does, all we can do is speculate. And speculate is what I'm doing when I say....Tannehill would probably pose a moderate upgrade for Davis. In other words, something less than significant upgrade for Davis, but greater than miniscule...and certainly not worse.

Earlier in the thread I was expressing thoughts that, all things considered, a switch to Tannehill could very-well make Davis roster-worthy again. If all goes right, perhaps a decent WR-3 or flex, with a ceiling as a WR-2 on occasion...and possibly even with a manageable floor, as opposed to Davis' weekly floor up to this point over the entirety of his 2.5 season's as a wide receiver in the National Football League, which has been otherwise UN-manageable.

But what I'm also thinking is, that even if such a switch to Tannehill doesn't ultimately amount to Davis being roster worthy in the long game, I feel if such a switch were to be made, that switch in and of itself makes Davis at least worthy of a temporary add as a wait and see flyer; ya know, if you have the room for it. And then if nothing comes it after, say, a week or two...then dump his a**; no harm no foul.

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With AJ Brown there, I don't think Corey ever becomes more than a low end WR2 as a ceiling.  That's way better than he is now of course, but his upside is capped.  Tennessee is not going to start airing out with Tannehill.  They will continue to play tough defense and run the ball.  With that kind of strategy, they can't support two WRs, and I don't think Corey is so far ahead of AJ that he'll be a target hog all of a sudden.

If we can get 5-7 quality targets per game from him (instead of the bad quality he currently gets) then we might have a decent flex option here.  It will be hard to predict when he has good games or not though.  This is a poor man's version of Diggs/Thielen.  The Vikings can't really support 2 WRs weekly with a ball control strategy, so the Titans definitely can't.

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12 minutes ago, Brownsfan74 said:

With AJ Brown there, I don't think Corey ever becomes more than a low end WR2 as a ceiling.  That's way better than he is now of course, but his upside is capped.  Tennessee is not going to start airing out with Tannehill.  They will continue to play tough defense and run the ball.  With that kind of strategy, they can't support two WRs, and I don't think Corey is so far ahead of AJ that he'll be a target hog all of a sudden.

If we can get 5-7 quality targets per game from him (instead of the bad quality he currently gets) then we might have a decent flex option here.  It will be hard to predict when he has good games or not though.  This is a poor man's version of Diggs/Thielen.  The Vikings can't really support 2 WRs weekly with a ball control strategy, so the Titans definitely can't.

 

I endorse your sentiments. What you say here is exactly how I envision the potential of Davis' prospects with Tannehill behind center: potential to be a decent weekly Flex/WR-3 would seem to be the sweet-spot. In fact, I expressed the same thoughts a couple of times in a couple of posts above. Only, unlike me, you put it a lot more succinctly than I could ever even dream of...and coherently I might add...and with an actual fleshed out "here's why", otherwise known as contextual analysis, or, "context" for short. Oh, and without the digressions into comedic tangents...which some folks enjoy; others (probably a whole heckuva lot more if I were to be honest with myself) not so much. But yeah, everything you say here in regards to Davis and the reasonable expectations of his potential with Tannehill, and the reasons as to why....I wholly concur.

 

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26 minutes ago, fjthegrey said:

Has Tannehill ever sustained a legit WR1 before?

No.  But, the Dolphins didn't have one on their roster, so..........

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31 minutes ago, fjthegrey said:

Has Tannehill ever sustained a legit WR1 before?

Jarvis Landry

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2 hours ago, MJJ28 said:

 

He has been upgraded from a player not worth a roster spot to an add and wait and see. If Tannehill decides Davis is the guy he wants to lock on to, he has WR1 potential. If Tannehill doesn't lock on to Davis, however, it will only be slight improvement over Mariota.

Agreed.  I'm not building by franchise around Tannehill but he is way better than Mariota. And if he decides that Davis is his favorite Target we could finally see him break out. 

I'm not starting Davis this week but if I have room I'll stash him on my bench to see how things play out.

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4 hours ago, Chest-Rockwell said:

 

Yesterday afternoon it was reported Vrabel said the team will decide on its starting quarterback Monday night. If that report is accurate, it means Vrabel made his decision last night. Now, if Vrabel did indeed make this decision last night, it'd be nice if he'd, ya know, go ahead and inform us of this decision, and I imagine, eventually, he probably will; however, to this point, he's yet to have done so.

Silly if you ask me. The Titans have a playoff caliber defense. And on offense, Derrick Henry is has the build to take on a heavy workload, while Corey Davis has the measurables and ball skills to be an impact receiver in this league. A relatively competent a quarterback makes this team a threat to make it out of the AFC; albeit a moderate threat, but a threat nonetheless. However, a relatively competent NFL QB, Marcus Mariota is not. To be sure, Ryan Tannehill might not be either; and if I'm being honest, more likely than not, he isn't. Yet, with Tannehill, we cannot say with certainty yet, one way or another. 

Mariota on the other hand? Everyone and their mother knows Marcus Mariota ain't worth a lick as a starting NFL quarterback. In fact, I think even my great Aunt Lakey knows this, even though in the 96 years she lived on this planet, I don't she ever once tuned into an NFL game, let alone kept up with the ongoings with Tennessee Titans signal caller. And I say these things in the past tense because she's been dead for about a year now; yet, even still, she knows Marcus Mariota ain't worth a damn lick as a starting NFL quarterback.

Nice guy I hear, this Mariota fella; and I'm sure he'd make for a great customer service rep; and as such, he seems athletic enough to me that I'd be willing to wager he'd be one hell of an intramural league quarterback for just about any general customer service intramural football league that exists in this country, from sea to shining sea.

But circling back to your original question:  at this juncture, no, we don't yet know who will be throwing footballs to Corey Davis this week, as it's still yet to have been announced.

Actually, I should probably rephrase that...

Because what we DO know is, whether the Titans starting QB this week winds up being Marcus Mariota or Ryan Tannehill, under no circumstances will Mariota be throwing any footballs to Corey Davis. Now, at one point or another Mariota might soft toss a couple balls harmlessly into the turf that one could argue were "pass attempts" aimed towards the general vicinity of where Corey Davis was standing...

But the actual act of Marcus Mariota throwing a football to Corey Davis?...No sir, that will not be happening; not by any measure.

 

3 hours ago, Chest-Rockwell said:

 

That's the million dollar question; the answer to which, I don't believe anyone knows yet. To find out the answer to this question, the first step in the process, or this "quest" if you will, is contingent on Mike Vrabel anointing Ryan Tannehill the starting quarterback. And it wouldn't even have to be a permanent anointment. Just giving Tannehill A game as the predetermined starter, and the week's worth of first team practice reps and game-planning that come along with that would be a nice start. I think just a singular start for him would go along ways towards shedding light onto that question.  And hopefully Vrabel complies in regards to this first step; and hopefully he does so beginning this week.

But until Vrabel does, all we can do is speculate. And speculate is what I'm doing when I say....Tannehill would probably pose a moderate upgrade for Davis. In other words, something less than significant upgrade for Davis, but greater than miniscule...and certainly not worse.

Earlier in the thread I was expressing thoughts that, all things considered, a switch to Tannehill could very-well make Davis roster-worthy again. If all goes right, perhaps a decent WR-3 or flex, with a ceiling as a WR-2 on occasion...and possibly even with a manageable floor, as opposed to Davis' weekly floor up to this point over the entirety of his 2.5 season's as a wide receiver in the National Football League, which has been otherwise UN-manageable.

But what I'm also thinking is, that even if such a switch to Tannehill doesn't ultimately amount to Davis being roster worthy in the long game, I feel if such a switch were to be made, that switch in and of itself makes Davis at least worthy of a temporary add as a wait and see flyer; ya know, if you have the room for it. And then if nothing comes it after, say, a week or two...then dump his a**; no harm no foul.

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6 hours ago, MJJ28 said:

 

He has been upgraded from a player not worth a roster spot to an add and wait and see. If Tannehill decides Davis is the guy he wants to lock on to, he has WR1 potential. If Tannehill doesn't lock on to Davis, however, it will only be slight improvement over Mariota.

I'm interested is seeing how Davis does with Tannehill but let's not get crazy.

He doesn't have WR1 potential, the most you could possibly hope for is high end WR3 maybe.

He's never put a decent season together and you can't put all the blame on the QB although he definitely didn't help.

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2 hours ago, raidaz18 said:

I'm interested is seeing how Davis does with Tannehill but let's not get crazy.

He doesn't have WR1 potential, the most you could possibly hope for is high end WR3 maybe.

He's never put a decent season together and you can't put all the blame on the QB although he definitely didn't help.

 

He definitely does have WR1 potential. Godwin, Chark, Sutton are all current WR1s and Davis is every bit as talented as those players.

 

I actually can put all the blame on the QB because I’ve watched the games and not a single WR in the league would be fantasy relevant with Mariota. Davis last season put up near identical numbers to Hopkins when Hopkins also had the worst QB situation in the league. There is no such thing as a situation proof WR.  If Tannehill plays like he is capable of (4000/25 pace) and favors Davis like he did Landry (likely since he is the top WR), he can definitely be a WR1.

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1 hour ago, raidaz18 said:

I'm interested is seeing how Davis does with Tannehill but let's not get crazy.

He doesn't have WR1 potential, the most you could possibly hope for is high end WR3 maybe.

He's never put a decent season together and you can't put all the blame on the QB although he definitely didn't help.

Bruh Mariota is horse s--- for receivers. You can totally blame the QB. 

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