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Asher Wojciechowski 2019 Outlook

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Guy doesn't have a post about him yet, but just went 7 scoreless vs Boston. Had a no-hitter through 6 and finished with 10 K's. Any chance he's the next John Means outta Boston? 

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You mean Baltimore? Yeah I’m interested to know this as well. Maybe it was the fact they had never faced him before but that stat line got my attention.

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Sox traditionally struggle against new faces...as a Sox fan I see it a lot...but double digit Ks is fun to gamble for especially this late...if you lost a pitcher due to injury, Woj isn't a bad dice throw...[...]

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5 GS 4 Starts:

12.13 K/9

3.91 ERA

3.96 FIP

4.18 xFIP

25.5 K-BB% 

3.50 SIERA

39.8 O-Swing%

16.8 SwStr%

Small sample size and majority of it comes from gem he pitched vs. Boston but not a bad guy to take a flyer on.  Has a plus curveball which is filth, not so sure about rest of his arsenal.  

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Wojciechowski has a pedigree. He was a 1st round pick of the Blue Jays in 2010 so it's not like he's coming entirely out of nowhere even though his track to possible relevancy has taken a long and circuitous route.

 

From Baseball Reference.com:

June 7, 2010: Drafted by the Toronto Blue Jays in the 1st round (41st pick) of the 2010 amateur draft. Player signed June 16, 2010.

July 20, 2012: Traded by the Toronto Blue Jays with a player to be named later, Francisco Cordero, Ben Francisco, Joe Musgrove, Carlos Perez and David Rollins to the Houston Astros for David Carpenter, J.A. Happ and Brandon Lyon. The Toronto Blue Jays sent Kevin Comer (minors) (August 16, 2012) to the Houston Astros to complete the trade.

May 24, 2016: Selected off waivers by the Miami Marlins from the Houston Astros.

November 7, 2016: Granted Free Agency.

December 9, 2016: Signed as a Free Agent with the Arizona Diamondbacks.

March 28, 2017: Released by the Arizona Diamondbacks.

April 21, 2017: Signed as a Free Agent with the Cincinnati Reds.

October 6, 2017: Granted Free Agency.

December 1, 2017: Signed as a Free Agent with the Baltimore Orioles.

July 18, 2018: Released by the Baltimore Orioles.

July 25, 2018: Signed as a Free Agent with the Chicago White Sox.

November 2, 2018: Granted Free Agency.

February 14, 2019: Signed as a Free Agent with the Cleveland Indians.

July 1, 2019: Purchased by the Baltimore Orioles from the Cleveland Indians.

 

All of this means precisely nothing, of course...

Maybe he's a late bloomer that's "found something" and can be a nice "lightning-in-a-bottle" find OR maybe he's a well travelled journeyman who's had a nice run of decent results this season and 1 fantastic start.

Personally I have no clue either way but if I have the room on a roster, I'm always willing to take a chance.

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Probably closer to an Adrian Sampson out of body experience (see Adrian Sampson thread for the novel written after his good start earlier in the year), then it is him being fantasy relevant.  But hey you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take so maybe pick him up and see if something clicked.

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As a Sox fan as potent as their lineup is, they have often struggled mightily and unexpectedly against young SPs they haven't seen much of. I've seen it time and time again, it's frustrating. Same pitcher gets lit up previous handful of starts, then faces BOS and makes them look like they're facing Cy Young. 

 

I would take the BOS start with caution and probably err more on the side of his shallackings from his previous opponents. That's not to say a SP couldn't have figured some things out along the way, it's very possible but I'm not sure about this guy being much to see here. He does seemingly have decent K totals however, but unless he shows further excellence is probably more of a deep league option/stream IMO. 

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A 30 year old SP on one of the worst teams in baseball with a mediocre (at best) track record in the minors?  I'll pass.

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Might be more than meets the eye here.  

 

The curve and fastball appear to have taken major steps forward.   During his last 5 contests he has an elite swinging strike rate of 16.8%, which includes 31 whiffs and only 7 walks.  The most recent gem against Boston "Wojo" produced an astonishing 23 swinging strikes, 9 of which came via the curve. Since his promotion he ranks third in swinging strike rate, behind only elite talents Scherzer and Snell.  

 

Not to suggest he is close to being in that same class, but if things "clicked", he is certainly worth the investment based on the low/near zero acquisition cost....  

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He’s an extreme fly ball pitcher. Since 2017 he’s had a fly ball rate of 50% or greater at every stop. Put that in Camden Yards against AL East lineups... 

There does look to be some legit strikeout upside, but the downside risk of him pitching home run derby is a little too much for me.

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I found this little blurb on Rotographs this morning about our favorite enigma:

Asher Wojciechowski (Baltimore Orioles, 3%) – Few owners have jumped at Wojciechowski and it doesn’t quite add up, possibly because they’ve misspelled his name searching on the wire. It would explain overlooking an arm that made the Red Sox look silly over the weekend, fanning ten with a phenomenal curveball and dotting heaters on the edge. His new cutter this year is an effective strike-earner and among a wire of little upside, chasing Woj seems like worth the risk against the Angels Thursday evening. We could be off the ride soon, but you may want to pick him up before the game. If it’s more of the same tonight, he’ll be flying off waivers tomorrow.

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2 hours ago, Sterling Archer said:

I found this little blurb on Rotographs this morning about our favorite enigma:

Asher Wojciechowski (Baltimore Orioles, 3%) – Few owners have jumped at Wojciechowski and it doesn’t quite add up, possibly because they’ve misspelled his name searching on the wire. It would explain overlooking an arm that made the Red Sox look silly over the weekend, fanning ten with a phenomenal curveball and dotting heaters on the edge. His new cutter this year is an effective strike-earner and among a wire of little upside, chasing Woj seems like worth the risk against the Angels Thursday evening. We could be off the ride soon, but you may want to pick him up before the game. If it’s more of the same tonight, he’ll be flying off waivers tomorrow.

My grandmother's maiden name is Wojciechowski, and I wouldnt be my life on spelling it correctly.  I guess he's worth a flyer, but likely not to amount to much.

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Great article from 2 days ago.  SSS though.

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The pitch that’s driving is his low-eighties slider/curveball (depending on who you ask). This slurvy breaking ball has been the driving force behind his strikeouts. Baseball Savant, who has it pinned as a curveball, has the pitch with a staggering 50 percent strikeout-rate and a .175 xwOBA against.

This pitch moves like crazy. It’s in the top five percent of the league in vertical rise and the top 15 percent in horizontal break. Using this high-movement pitch late in counts is what’s holding the strikeout surge.

 

 

 

https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2019/7/24/20708033/asher-wojciechowski-baltimore-orioles-slider-curveball-cutter-movement-cleveland-indians-astros

 

 

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On 7/23/2019 at 9:23 AM, dfstout said:

Sox traditionally struggle against new faces...as a Sox fan I see it a lot...but double digit Ks is fun to gamble for especially this late...if you lost a pitcher due to injury, Woj isn't a bad dice throw...[...]

I concur.  Except the part about him not being a bad dice throw.  I think he would be a bad streamer.  He was against everyone else except the "never saw him before so we are totally clueless" Sox.

And yeah that really is a "thing" about the Red Sox and I don't know why it should be when it isn't with most other teams.

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So I guess I’m hopping on this train. The swing and miss stuff seems legitimate. Hopefully he’s turned himself into a trade chip and he gets out of Camden Yards. I think that would be a huge boost to his fantasy value.

 

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Yet another voice heard from in the "Is-Asher-Wojciechowski-a-legitimate-thing" debate, this time by Matt Wallach from Pitcherlist.com.

https://www.pitcherlist.com/going-deep-wojo-has-found-his-mojo/

 

It's a long piece with a lot of data to digest but the short answer seems to be...

yes, he probably is.

A couple of interesting quotes:

"While in the Indians organization, Wojciechowski used data produced by Edgertronic cameras to help him refine his pitches. He says that the pitch that gets classified as a slider is more of a slurve and that the cutter he throws is intended to look more like a slider. With the Indians, the team looked at the Edgertronic data and suggested he add a pitch to complement the slurve, which is where the cutter came from. He never threw a cutter in the majors before this season, but the pitch has been a big part of his success thus far."

"The next layer of his pitch mix is that he manipulates the slurve depending on the game situation. He says he likes to use the slurve as curveball early in the count and then turn to the slider-type movement for whiffs. He also adds that he changes the way the cutter moves in the same way and that he increases the movement of the pitch when he needs a whiff. Whatever the technical specifications of the pitch are, it is good to see that the success can be traced back to adjustments and that it looks less like he is just lucking his way into a short run of strong performances."

"While it may still be too premature to call Asher Wojciechowski a success story, there is a lot to like about what he’s done in a small sample for the Orioles this year. Using technology and data, Wojciechowski has redefined his pitch mix, offering a new platter of breaking balls that confuses both analysts and hitters alike. With this new ability to change speeds comes with a new ability to generate whiffs, with rates that put him in good company with some of the best pitchers in baseball. He also has redefined how he has used his fastball and it is currently getting the best results it has in his career. Add all that up and you get a pitcher that should be a more-than-serviceable piece in a big-league rotation, and hopefully a bright spot on an Orioles team that is trying to get through some lean years."

 

I strongly encourage the read.

 

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Jays were the last team to rock him on July 7. Anyone taking a chance against them at home tonight?

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He gone

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He left the game with a sore hip and did look good through the first 2 innings. A sore hip affected the way Caleb Smith pitched in June. Maybe that had affect on Asher last night.

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