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2019 August Closer Thread

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6 minutes ago, ASHLANDARROWS1992 said:

 

Gotta be to start with...think that’s it for oberg this year?

He's had blood clot issues before, gotta think the seriousness of it would knock him out this year.

God I want nothing to do with Davis, but may just pick him up to cockblock.

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1 hour ago, ASHLANDARROWS1992 said:

 

Gotta be to start with...think that’s it for oberg this year?

 

Yeah he is done for the year per the Denver Post beat writer. It's a shame.

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31 minutes ago, blink said:

I wanna drop Hand so badly

 

Same.  I have a feeling he is just in a rut though.  I think he will be ok sooner than later.

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1 minute ago, ASHLANDARROWS1992 said:

Wade Davis doing wade Davis things..lol

Walking Jorge Alfaro takes quite some talent

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5 hours after being renamed closer, Wade Davis blows a save. 

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Lol Wade Davis....can’t get out of the way of...Wade Davis...

 

Already picked up Estevez and McGee

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Wade Davis:

35.2 IP, 41 Hits, 26 Runs

 

Shouldn’t even be pitching right now

 

Correction:

35.2 IP, 41 Hits, 27 Runs

ERA is almost at 7.00 😨

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Yay, Stanek gets a save opportunity....in Coors field. What can go wrong?

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1 hour ago, fourstar said:

How we ranking the following: Hudson, Jimenez, Davis, Melancon?

 

1.  Melancon: Braves are a good team and Melancon should hold the closer's role for the rest of the season as long as he avoids imploding

2.  Hudson: Definitely worth a pickup in all leagues while Doolittle is on the DL, but Doolittle will probably get the closer's job back when returns from the DL

3.  Davis:  Likely the closer for the rest of the year.  He's unplayable at Coors Field (9.70 ERA this season) where his breaking ball doesn't break in the thin air, but he's a must-start away from Coors (0.63 ERA on the road this year) now that he's got the closer's role back.

4.  Jimenez: Tigers are the worst team in baseball and Jimenez is simply an atrocious major-league pitcher (4.82 ERA this year, 5.63 career ERA).  He's going to harm much more in ratios than whatever small amount of saves he provides.

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1 hour ago, CORTEz said:

Wade Davis:

35.2 IP, 41 Hits, 26 Runs

 

Shouldn’t even be pitching right now

 

Correction:

35.2 IP, 41 Hits, 27 Runs

ERA is almost at 7.00 😨

 

In fairness to Davis, almost all of the damage has come this year at Coors Field (9.70 ERA at home, 0.63 ERA on the road).  I still think Wade Davis is a really good MLB pitcher who will be an above-average closer again whenever he gets out of Colorado.  He just simply can't pitch at Coors.  Coors hurts all pitchers obviously, but Davis is very reliant on his breaking ball, so Coors hurts him even more than most.

Fly balls carrying a few extra feet in the thin air is the very minor, almost negligible part, of the problem.  The main issue is that breaking balls don't break in the thin air, which makes hitting exponentially easier when you don't have to worry about protecting against breaking balls.

Only one Rockies' pitcher has ever finished as a top 25 fantasy pitcher: Ubaldo Jimenez in 2010.  And Jimenez did it by throwing 99mph and blowing the ball by hitters.  That's literally the only way you can pitch well there when you can't throw breaking balls.  On a side note, Ubaldo really should have won the Cy Young in 2010.  Rockies' hitters always get punished for the Coors effect in the MVP race, but for some reason, Ubaldo didn't give credit for pitching in Coors.

Seriously, check out Kershaw's, Bumgarner's, Strasburg's, Greinke's, and Scherzer's career numbers at Coors.  Not one of those guys have numbers at Coors that would even be ownable in fantasy leagues.

As Scott Pianowski on Yahoo likes to say, "Gravity always wins"

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Kimbrel in a NSS gives up 1st pitch homer to my boy marte, then hits tucker with 2 strikes but should have been a strikeout since he swung, then gets back to back strikeouts..stuff actually looked good..should have been 3 straight punch outs after marte homer but a blown call by ump on the tucker at bat

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2 hours ago, FootballFan101 said:

 

1.  Melancon: Braves are a good team and Melancon should hold the closer's role for the rest of the season as long as he avoids imploding

2.  Hudson: Definitely worth a pickup in all leagues while Doolittle is on the DL, but Doolittle will probably get the closer's job back when returns from the DL

3.  Davis:  Likely the closer for the rest of the year.  He's unplayable at Coors Field (9.70 ERA this season) where his breaking ball doesn't break in the thin air, but he's a must-start away from Coors (0.63 ERA on the road this year) now that he's got the closer's role back.

4.  Jimenez: Tigers are the worst team in baseball and Jimenez is simply an atrocious major-league pitcher (4.82 ERA this year, 5.63 career ERA).  He's going to harm much more in ratios than whatever small amount of saves he provides.

 

That is utterly insane wtf

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8 hours ago, street sharks said:

 

That is utterly insane wtf

 

Those splits didn't include yesterday's game.  Davis now has a 10.97 ERA at Coors and an 0.63 ERA on the road.  Makes quite a difference when breaking balls don't break in the thin air.

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Anyone think Strickland has a chance in D.C. or is probably Keller for sure?

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Just now, wahoos1 said:

Anyone think Strickland has a chance in D.C. or is probably Keller for sure?

Daniel Hudson

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