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Undervalued - Russell Westbrook

Luka Doncic is getting drafted over him. Ok I guess. Whatever floats your boat.

 

Overvalued - Damian Lillard

Zach LaVine and Devin Booker will post similar stats and you can draft them a round later. A couple of rounds in LaVine's case.

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4 hours ago, Trench Mob said:

Undervalued - Russell Westbrook

Luka Doncic is getting drafted over him. Ok I guess. Whatever floats your boat.

 

Overvalued - Damian Lillard

Zach LaVine and Devin Booker will post similar stats and you can draft them a round later. A couple of rounds in LaVine's case.

I don't agree with Lillard...that guy doesn't miss games and is on a competitive team. Those guys their health and shut down risk is factored into their draft rankings. If Lavine actually played full seasons few years in a row his rank would be much higher. 

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Undervalued - Blake Griffin

Routinely getting drafted late 4th, early 5th round. All of the offense in Detroit still revolves around him. There arent too many players with his caliber of counting stats available in the 5th round. 

Overvalued - Kemba Walker

Still getting drafted a lot in the second round. Counting stats a lock to Drop. Pass 

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7 minutes ago, Code of Hammurabi said:

Undervalued - Blake Griffin

Routinely getting drafted late 4th, early 5th round. All of the offense in Detroit still revolves around him. There arent too many players with his caliber of counting stats available in the 5th round. 

Overvalued - Kemba Walker

Still getting drafted a lot in the second round. Counting stats a lock to Drop. Pass 

Agree big on Kemba. But Blake is pretty damn injury prone, seems there is always something, so that is why he gets downgraded a lot by most even though he does put up THICC counting stats. His fg% was 46% last year which is awful for a big man, his ft% was 75% on very high volume as well (7 attempts) which hurts more than a 60% ft guy on like 3 attempts. For teams that can handle these weaknesses though his counting stats are great, he is just an odd fit on a lot of teams, especially because he also doesn't block or steal. So really he is only useful for pts, rebs (which are still well below average for a big), assists, and very good for 3s now because he took 7 attempts per game last season lmao. He has become more like a guard for stats actually, without the steals and with pretty bad ft%. 

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I feel like Miles Bridges may be slightly undervalued...as I think he's similar to Tobias Harris - good %, Tobias more points, 3's, and FT, Bridges more stocks.  But if you miss on Tobias you could theoretically get Bridges a round or 2 or 3 later and possibly get more value from the stocks.  

 

I also really like J-Rich but haven't been able to get him yet.  The reduction in offensive role should mean an increase in stocks, and an increase in 3's as he gets fed better open catch and shoot looks.  

 

Thybulle - undrafted in most leagues, probably better for deeper leagues.  But I see a 1/1/1 player with more defensive upside, even in a 15-20 min / nigh role.  You could probably say the same for Caboclo. 

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42 minutes ago, the1gq2nvy said:

I don't agree with Lillard...that guy doesn't miss games and is on a competitive team. Those guys their health and shut down risk is factored into their draft rankings. If Lavine actually played full seasons few years in a row his rank would be much higher. 

 

My feeling is anyone on any given night can get hurt. It wasn't a better example of that than a couple seasons ago. Hell, LeBron of all players got hurt last season. I never let fear get in the way of drafting.

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17 minutes ago, hipriest69 said:

Thybulle - undrafted in most leagues, probably better for deeper leagues.  But I see a 1/1/1 player with more defensive upside, even in a 15-20 min / nigh role.  You could probably say the same for Caboclo. 

 

Speaking of another 1/1/1 player, Bembry is only owned in 2% of leagues lol. I know Huerter and Turner are hurt atm, but Lloyd Pierce has a man crush on him. He's going to get some burn.

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Over valued - Joel Embiid 

His per game will be easy first round material, but his playoff schedule and back to backs during it given the teams he is playing those weeks means you're likely to get a couple 2 game weeks in the playoffs and that pretty much means you lose your league after an entire year of thinking you're the man. 

Undervalued - Oladipo 

Hes going for $12 in auctions and come playoff time, he will back in form and playing on a team likely fighting for a top 4 seed. Given his fringe top 10 upside for the 3 weeks that matter most, hes undervalued. A good manager will get to the playoffs while being able to spare an extra $12, and come February the league talk will be just like it was with cousins last year; woh this dudes team is gonna be unstoppable if cousins back healthy for fantasy playoffs. Except dipo instead. It didn't work out for cousins owners but that was bad luck and for $12, I'll gamble on a player with monstrous potential for the weeks that matter most. Collison stole his thunder last year and dipo played off ball a lot due to that. Collison is now gone. The $12 is worth every penny of the gamble. If you don't think you can make playoffs $12 short, stick to $20 leagues. 

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On 10/10/2019 at 8:29 PM, johnval1362 said:

Over valued - Joel Embiid 

His per game will be easy first round material, but his playoff schedule and back to backs during it given the teams he is playing those weeks means you're likely to get a couple 2 game weeks in the playoffs and that pretty much means you lose your league after an entire year of thinking you're the man. 

 

Can I ask where you're getting this information? 

According to Hashtag basketball, the Sixers have a 4-4-3 for the standard weeks of 22-24 (fantasy POs).  I guess he does have one for Week 21 (March 8-15), but I don't think I've seen too many fantasy leagues start that early.  Therefore, for most standard leagues, he actually has one of the better schedules.

Your point about the teams he's playing can go either way, however.  He's playing against some of the worst teams projected (Wiz, Suns, Hornets), so yeah, he could (and probably will) rest, but he'll also dominate those teams if he's playing.  In addition, he's stated that he'll likely try to lower his minutes per game to compensate for trying to make it to 70+ games played overall.

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Just now, MWon said:

 

Can I ask where you're getting this information? 

According to Hashtag basketball, the Sixers have a 4-4-3 for the standard weeks of 22-24 (fantasy POs).  I guess he does have one for Week 21 (March 8-15), but I don't think I've seen too many fantasy leagues start that early.  Therefore, for most standard leagues, he actually has one of the better schedules.

Your point about the teams he's playing can go either way, however.  He's playing against some of the worst teams projected (Wiz, Suns, Hornets), so yeah, he could (and probably will) rest, but he'll also dominate those teams if he's playing.  In addition, he's stated that he'll likely try to lower his minutes per game to compensate for trying to make it to 70+ games played overall.

I'm not giving sources but the weeks ending on April 5th are not standard, as far as I know. All 7 of my leagues so far end march 29th. If you are playing in a league that ends April 5th, disregard my comment. 

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Overvalued- Mitchel Robinson..... I can see him being drafted and projected as a top 40. He is a block specialist but nothing else other than this, and I think his foul problem will be not improved a lot. I can not understand even drafted before players like T. Harris or Porzingis or at similar place like Turner...

 

Undervalued - Lord Cov .... Once again I think that Covington is undervalued if he is healthy he will be easy top 50 with his unique combination of stls blocks and 3pms

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Over: Doncic, seems like few really like this guy but then he has the most counting stats of anyone available in the third and people try to build around him.  22/8/6 with 2.5 threes and a steal.  I think Kristaps and more experience can get his FG% up, as well as his FT% returning to his median in Europe, but still won't be good.  43/78/3.5

Under: Lowry, another punt FG/TO sort of guy.  A perennial top 25 guy and with Kawhi gone he will absorb some of that usage, going back to his historical averages.  His assists were an outlier last year, but his FG% was his worst in several years, and his usage will go up.  Increased usage and efficiency means his scoring should go substantially up.  19/7/5 with 2.8 threes, 1.4 steals, .5 blocks, 43/83/3 TO.

 

Lowry is across the board slightly worse in the popcorn stats, but should be better in St3cks.  Not to mention, though they are similarly inefficient, Lowry will do it on less volume, and with better FT%.  Lowry is almost certainly going to finish ahead of Doncic in BBM and be had in the 5th.    

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21 minutes ago, paokmaniak said:

Overvalued- Mitchel Robinson..... I can see him being drafted and projected as a top 40. He is a block specialist but nothing else other than this, and I think his foul problem will be not improved a lot. I can not understand even drafted before players like T. Harris or Porzingis or at similar place like Turner...

 

Undervalued - Lord Cov .... Once again I think that Covington is undervalued if he is healthy he will be easy top 50 with his unique combination of stls blocks and 3pms

Roco should be automatically added to the undervalued list every year. Last year everyone was worried about him not scoring enough, etc. in Philly, and then he was a fantasy superstar until he got hurt.

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4 minutes ago, StifleTower2 said:

Over: Doncic, seems like few really like this guy but then he has the most counting stats of anyone available in the third and people try to build around him.  22/8/6 with 2.5 threes and a steal.  I think Kristaps and more experience can get his FG% up, as well as his FT% returning to his median in Europe, but still won't be good.  43/78/3.5

Under: Lowry, another punt FG/TO sort of guy.  A perennial top 25 guy and with Kawhi gone he will absorb some of that usage, going back to his historical averages.  His assists were an outlier last year, but his FG% was his worst in several years, and his usage will go up.  Increased usage and efficiency means his scoring should go substantially up.  19/7/5 with 2.8 threes, 1.4 steals, .5 blocks, 43/83/3 TO.

 

Lowry is across the board slightly worse in the popcorn stats, but should be better in St3cks.  Not to mention, though they are similarly inefficient, Lowry will do it on less volume, and with better FT%.  Lowry is almost certainly going to finish ahead of Doncic in BBM and be had in the 5th.    

 

It's crazy I have Lowry on about 5 teams now, its almost like universally no one wants him before pick 45 or something.  The only other similar player I see being more underrated is Bledsoe, who goes even after Lowry!      

 

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Just now, hipriest69 said:

 

It's crazy I have Lowry on about 5 teams now, its almost like universally no one wants him before pick 45 or something.  The only other similar player I see being more underrated is Bledsoe, who goes even after Lowry!      

 

 I have Lowry every team I've drafted thus far save the one in which you sniped me.  So we're even.

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1 minute ago, hipriest69 said:

 

It's crazy I have Lowry on about 5 teams now, its almost like universally no one wants him before pick 45 or something.  The only other similar player I see being more underrated is Bledsoe, who goes even after Lowry!      

 

I noticed that too.  And while I like Bledsoe he's not in Lowry's league.  Lowry's last four finishes were 36,29,12,11 and the conditions he are in more closely parallel the years in which he went 11-12.  Although he is clearly declining and I think he has just two years left of relevance.  He can definitely put in two more top 30 finishes.

 

Bledsoe is a little younger and a little worse: 43, 33, 38, 23.  With Brogon gone I think he can get back to the 33-38 range.  

 

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Heh, I just finished a draft and took Lowry at the end of the 4th round because of y'all.  Everyone in my league laughed at me, but I agree - IF Lowry stays healthy (he's recovering from surgery now) and IF he doesn't get moved, I could see him being a steal.  Not a perfect fit for my build, but hopefully he takes over for Kawhi's loss and plays enough to force the Raptors into the playoffs.

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On 10/10/2019 at 1:43 PM, Code of Hammurabi said:

Undervalued - Blake Griffin

Routinely getting drafted late 4th, early 5th round. All of the offense in Detroit still revolves around him. There arent too many players with his caliber of counting stats available in the 5th round. 

Overvalued - Kemba Walker

Still getting drafted a lot in the second round. Counting stats a lock to Drop. Pass 


Guards are going fast. Who else are you going to take once the Lillards, Beals, Irving’s, and Curry are gone? Kemba is a solidified 75+’games the last 3 seasons and he is going to be the leader on a young Boston team. Who else is going to score? Hayward? Lol.

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13 hours ago, hipriest69 said:

 

It's crazy I have Lowry on about 5 teams now, its almost like universally no one wants him before pick 45 or something.  The only other similar player I see being more underrated is Bledsoe, who goes even after Lowry!      

 

 

True, I got Bledsoe at 71 a few days ago in a yahoo cash league. 

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2 hours ago, RedDogNamedClippers said:


Guards are going fast. Who else are you going to take once the Lillards, Beals, Irving’s, and Curry are gone? Kemba is a solidified 75+’games the last 3 seasons and he is going to be the leader on a young Boston team. Who else is going to score? Hayward? Lol.

 

Tatum, Hayward, Kanter and Brown are all capable of putting up > 15 ppg.  Their talent on offense will eclipse the supporting cast Kemba was working with last year (Batum, Lamb, Marv, Zeller) by a decent margin.

 

Still,I would not pass on Kemba in the 2nd if I’m looking for a PG and the rest of the R2 smalls (Butler, KI, Jrue, Trae, Booker) have been picked. I like the odds of him offsetting the reduced counting stats with improved efficiency away from CHA.  

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overvalued:

embiid - can’t be a first rounder when you probably won’t play more than 60 games 

 

undervalued:

ingram - second half of last season was kdesque .. don’t see why he doesn’t pick up where he left off 

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