Odell Beckham 2020 Outlook

[FitzMagic 4,260]

2 minutes ago, Chippa said:

I see a lot of people blaming baker but odell had a couple outright drops

So when they said Baker was overthrowing him that was a lie?

[Chippa 1,312]

Just now, FitzMagic said:

So when they said Baker was overthrowing him that was a lie?

Take it easy, man

[FitzMagic 4,260]

3 minutes ago, Chippa said:

Take it easy, man

I'm asking a serious question. I didn't see the game. I have him in a couple of leagues and I'm wondering where the problem lies? Because every time I see Baker play he's not good. He can hit Landry like a champ though. A talent like Odell shouldn't have people debating whether or not to sit him. This has just gotten way out of hand. Baker and Odell have zero connection.

Edited September 14, 2020 by FitzMagic

[Chippa 1,312]

2 minutes ago, FitzMagic said:

I'm asking a serious question. I didn't see the game. I have him in a couple of leagues and I'm wondering where the problem lies? Because every time I see Baker play he's not good. He can hit Landry like a champ though. A talent like Odell shouldn't have people debating whether or not to sit him. This has just gotten way out of hand. Baker and Odell have zero connection.

Sure baker had his share of miscues, but like you said, landry and baker have a good connection. 

Odell just kind of looks like he’s going thru the motions.

[FootballOutsider 50]

Browns fan here with zero shares of Baker or Odell. Here’s the issue I see: zero chemistry between these two guys. When Odell is the first read Baker doesn’t stick with him long enough. Beckham is actually getting open but Baker goes to his next read just before that happens. In the first half, can’t remember if it was the first or second drive, Baker hit one of the TEs on an out just as Odell made it by his guy in zone coverage with nobody over the top. Would’ve been an easy TD. Instances like that happened a lot last year too. As a result OBJ becomes a headcase and starts dropping the ball when it does come to him. 3rd and 2 just before halftime comes to mind. Sure Baker threw it slightly behind but it was eye level and mostly in motion. Odell just flat out dropped the ball. The frustration builds and Beckham just keeps making mistakes. He stepped out of bounds on a route just prior to a completion. He got a face mask personal foul on a wide receiver screen. Odell has actually drawn a fair amount of PI calls the last two seasons which have hurt his numbers but have also frustrated him because he’s not actually catching the ball. Throw in all the time they missed together in camp last year because of Beckham’s rehab and the brutal schedule of top CBs the Browns player last year and these guys have never clicked. I wanted this to work out more than anything but I just don’t see a path forward. I would hold Beckham in case he gets traded. I think it’s a real possibility this season. 

[FavreCo 407]

2 hours ago, JetsAwesome said:

You think OBJ is dragging the offense down ?  Where's the data to support that?  Have you seen Baker's qb play?  

It was great BEFORE this clown arrived. It's sucked ever since. He's a drive killer.

[Chippa 1,312]

2 minutes ago, FavreCo said:

It was great BEFORE this clown arrived. It's sucked ever since. He's a drive killer.

Odell’s a cancer too. There’s a reason the giants didnt want him anywhere near Daniel Jones.

only a guy like brady or roethlisberger can keep him contained. 

[Gohawks 9,938]

30 minutes ago, HTXMade said:

He'll feast on Thursday, book it

If Odell drops a 30 burger on Thursday i'll volunteer to personally take a **** on his chest.

[Chippa 1,312]

3 minutes ago, FavreCo said:

It was great BEFORE this clown arrived. It's sucked ever since. He's a drive killer.

Browns would def be better off without odell. 2 good tight ends, 2 great runningbacks, a good wr in jarvis landry. They dont need the antics and attitude of odell

[Ryansm11 2,076]

I mean his floor is 1000 yards. He played in my opinion the best secondary (possibly best defense) in football. If you go back to last season the ravens smothered WR’s. Only slot WR’s had any kind of real success against them. Baker isnt that good, and they have no chemistry. Those are real issues. Next week is a softer matchup and should give us a better idea of the offense. The bigger concern is they are gonna run the ball 30 times any game they can, cause you obviously can’t trust baker at this point. 

[JetsAwesome 638]

2 minutes ago, Chippa said:

Odell’s a cancer too. There’s a reason the giants didnt want him anywhere near Daniel Jones.

only a guy like brady or roethlisberger can keep him contained. 

how the giants looking?  what's their record post Odell?

[Chippa 1,312]

Just now, JetsAwesome said:

how the giants looking?  what's their record post Odell?

Odell stans itt

they’re building. Teams go thru cycles. 2016 they were good, 2017 they were bad, and it was time to rebuild

[Gohawks 9,938]

4 minutes ago, Chippa said:

Browns would def be better off without odell. 2 good tight ends, 2 great runningbacks, a good wr in jarvis landry. They dont need the antics and attitude of odell

 

6 minutes ago, Chippa said:

Odell’s a cancer too. There’s a reason the giants didnt want him anywhere near Daniel Jones.

only a guy like brady or roethlisberger can keep him contained. 

[Chippa 1,312]

2 minutes ago, JetsAwesome said:

how the giants looking?  what's their record post Odell?

Better yet, how’s the browns record with odell?

[Chippa 1,312]

Just now, Gohawks said:

 

Lol im out of this thread because Im now obviously conversing with 2 odell marks who cant even make real counter arguments. There’s a browns fan who posted earlier in this thread. I suggest you listen to him

 

peace

[BIGFATPANDA 426]

Drop City... 

[joshua18 7,028]

On 1/18/2020 at 7:09 AM, joshua18 said:

He’s mediocre without Eli. 
 

My response to Evan Silva and all the Giants haters who thought Baker was an upgrade over Eli

 

 

 

 

 

Still mediocre without Eli. Nothing else to see here.

[SharkSwimmer 4,805]

Our first? clue that this Odell Beckham thing might not work out too well was when he was photographed snorting coke off of a pizza box with some starlet.

[MKO3090 128]

One Browns fan gave a fair outlook (am also a Browns fan). New coach, new system, very shortened offseason against the 2nd best team in the league. Due to limited live action practices, he supposes it'll take about 5-6 weeks to get an idea of how good the coaches are and if Baker and OBJ are getting there. Said this was the worst possible matchup for a team in the Browns' position.

 

So he's a volatile WR3 until he's not. You got to give it time.

[FeastMode 374]

14 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said:

Our first? clue that this Odell Beckham thing might not work out too well was when he was photographed snorting coke off of a pizza box with some starlet.

Work out for who?  Sounds like it’s working out ok for Beckham.  He’s got some blow, a starlet, and pizza. What more do you really want?

[SharkSwimmer 4,805]

3 minutes ago, FeastMode said:

Work out for who?  Sounds like it’s working out ok for Beckham.  He’s got some blow, a starlet, and pizza. What more do you really want?

We want our transcendent NFL superstar from 2014 back, that's what we really want.  And it seems unlikely we will ever see him again.

[cheezor42 531]

12 hours ago, OrangeAggie said:

O'Dell is just the latest uber talented WR who is losing a war with his ego. Another guy who will learn the hard way that great players don't stop to acknowledge their greatness. 

well said. I think this summarized what happened to him pretty well.  He got so obsessed with his own legend he stopped working on his craft and started expecting everything to come easy/be handed to him.  When things didn’t go his way his reaction wasn’t to take some tough medicine and bounce back by getting back to what got him there, but instead he’s simply gone further into the mental black hole.  It was fun while it lasted.

[Spyplane 1,581]

2 hours ago, PisEdiRin said:

 

OBJ in NYC = completely manufactured production as part of a Ponzi Scheme spearheaded by Ben McAdoo, Jerry Reese, and Marc Ross.

He never actually "dominated" at all. It was all a mirage. All fake and manufactured production. The Giants went 6-10 or worse in 4 of 5 seasons with OBJ. 

A lot of teams sure wish they had a fake player who could make those kinds of clutch catches. The league is dying for more fakeness.

[sportsfreak2744 757]

4 hours ago, RevisAteMyQB said:

Watched the entire game, and you need look no farther than this breakdown:

 

Baker had absolutely no clean pockets. 
When he did, he was not entirely accurate. 
Odell looked every bit fast and twitchy, and his hands have not faded. 
 

this is a situation issue. The line needs to get it together, and baker needs to throw a ******** clean ball. 
 

if Odell were on the Steelers, for example—he’d be a first round pick. 

 

So he did or he didn't have clean pockets?

[K197040 2,412]

2 hours ago, FootballOutsider said:

Browns fan here with zero shares of Baker or Odell. Here’s the issue I see: zero chemistry between these two guys. When Odell is the first read Baker doesn’t stick with him long enough. Beckham is actually getting open but Baker goes to his next read just before that happens. In the first half, can’t remember if it was the first or second drive, Baker hit one of the TEs on an out just as Odell made it by his guy in zone coverage with nobody over the top. Would’ve been an easy TD. Instances like that happened a lot last year too. As a result OBJ becomes a headcase and starts dropping the ball when it does come to him. 3rd and 2 just before halftime comes to mind. Sure Baker threw it slightly behind but it was eye level and mostly in motion. Odell just flat out dropped the ball. The frustration builds and Beckham just keeps making mistakes. He stepped out of bounds on a route just prior to a completion. He got a face mask personal foul on a wide receiver screen. Odell has actually drawn a fair amount of PI calls the last two seasons which have hurt his numbers but have also frustrated him because he’s not actually catching the ball. Throw in all the time they missed together in camp last year because of Beckham’s rehab and the brutal schedule of top CBs the Browns player last year and these guys have never clicked. I wanted this to work out more than anything but I just don’t see a path forward. I would hold Beckham in case he gets traded. I think it’s a real possibility this season. 

Listen buddy...I don't need an opinion from someone who knows the team and pays attention.

If you can't qualify your thoughts with "total bust" or "league winner", I'm out.