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Gary Sanchez 2020 Outlook

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On 1/19/2020 at 4:53 PM, Sidearmer said:

 

In what way is he safer? If by safer you mean we know for a fact he will have a terrible average than yes you are right. Sanchez may have a bad average but he has a chance to at least be solid.

And how do we know he will fare well in Chicago? Park gets better but he will be now facing new league of pitchers. He also got the benefit of some starts at 1B last year and with Encarnacion and Abreu clogging up 1B and DH he probably will lose this. White Sox also have James McCann who had a great season, they will get him ABs. He played 153 games last year, 20 at first. I'd be shocked if he sniffed that many games this year.

If we are talking OBP then you have an argument (even so, he's coming off a career OBP year, so again, that's not a given), but in standard leagues Grandal has quite a lot of risk and much less upside than Sanchez.

 

Grandal hit .246 last year and Sanchez hit .232. And Grandal OBP was 61 points higher. 

Sanchez is more injury prone, he averaged 397 AB's per year the last 3 years to Grandal's 464. 

I'd normally agree with you about the new pitcher's but we are talking about the AL Central here, he's going to be just fine.

I guess what I meant by safe is which player is the better bet to have at least a "good/solid" year and my money would be on Grandal but like I said it's close.

 

On 1/19/2020 at 3:12 PM, jfazz23 said:

 

hes much better than Grandal like the sky is blue.  hes probably better than Realmuto if both are healthy and have the same at bats.  but JT has proven hes more durable. 

 

And this here is just silly and not even worthy of a response other than to point out how silly it is.

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Not in camp today because he's running a fever. Team would not disclose if he is being tested for COVID-19.

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3 hours ago, Sine_cera said:

 

 

Same as Judge and Stanton. If theyre already hurt in spring training, no reason to draft them.

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8 minutes ago, Evincar said:

Same as Judge and Stanton. If theyre already hurt in spring training, no reason to draft them.

 

While I do like the spiciness of this take, risk/reward analysis is pretty fundamental to running a fantasy baseball team.  And there are definitely auction prices/draft positions where Stanton and Sanchez absolutely warrant taking the plunge.

Judge?  To be quite honest, I don't really understand his injury.  Is this guy missing the year?  

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1 minute ago, Overlord said:

 

While I do like the spiciness of this take, risk/reward analysis is pretty fundamental to running a fantasy baseball team.  And there are definitely auction prices/draft positions where Stanton and Sanchez absolutely warrant taking the plunge.

Judge?  To be quite honest, I don't really understand his injury.  Is this guy missing the year?  

 

The same thing can be said of any player that is injury prone or overpriced. "If they fall..." Funny how 2017 is the year where Sanchez, Judge and Stanton all had career seasons, and I dont think theyre ever getting back to that level. Chances are these guys dont fall enough in most drafts because everyone is chasing that upside. Are they really worth the headache all season? If Sanchez is still there in the 9th round is he still a good gamble, even though I could still wait on guys like Grandal, Perez or Contrearas etc?

Ive never done auction baseball but in football I would always nominate guys like Gronkowski and Josh Gordon first, I would do the same with the 3 Yankees.

 

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7 minutes ago, Evincar said:

 

The same thing can be said of any player that is injury prone...

 

 

No, not all injuries are created equal.  A pitcher recovering from a torn UCL is fundamentally different from a guy who's missing time with the flu.  

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4 minutes ago, Overlord said:

 

No, not all injuries are created equal.  A pitcher recovering from a torn UCL is fundamentally different from a guy who's missing time with the flu.  

 

Doesnt he have a back issue as well? Thats why I would be more concerned about.

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55 minutes ago, Evincar said:

 

Doesnt he have a back issue as well? Thats why I would be more concerned about.

dont think it was too serious as he was doing catching drills prior to the flu

something to think about but if he drops from adp of 75 top 95 then its worth it imo. i got 2 shares past pick 90

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1 hour ago, urban2014 said:

What the hell is going on


Probably he worked out with Yelich during the Covid break.

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I had a feeling this guy was either gonna put up nuts numbers in the short season...or be sub Mendoza bad, no in between.  Unfortunately the latter looks like a distinct possibility so far.  10 Ks in 16 PAs, not bad.

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I hate that I drafted this guy. You feel like if you play him, he'll keep sucking a rotten mule's rear...but as soon as you bench him, he'll his 4 HR in his next three games. You can't cut him because of his HR potential, and no one will want to trade for him. Frustrating. 

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hes like most cheap power bats (not cheap). got to roll with them. eventually they get hot and can carry you. edwin, gary, khris, franmil, olson, donaldson, ect.

h2h you just hope the rest of ur team can produce when they are ice cold

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I will never understand why people pay up for this guy. He’s a catcher, I get it. But man, between his annual lengthy injuries and the drain he places on your batting average...at the inflated price-tag he’s sure to cost you...brutal; just brutal. 

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5 minutes ago, Chest-Rockwell said:

I will never understand why people pay up for this guy. He’s a catcher, I get it. But man, between his annual lengthy injuries and the drain he places on your batting average...at the inflated price-tag he’s sure to cost you...brutal; just brutal. 

 

In his first two seasons, he put up a combined .284 BA. The last two have been awful, but I think the hope remains that he can find that middle ground and be a .250-.260 hitter who will obviously load up on the HRs for you. 

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18 minutes ago, Chest-Rockwell said:

I will never understand why people pay up for this guy. He’s a catcher, I get it. But man, between his annual lengthy injuries and the drain he places on your batting average...at the inflated price-tag he’s sure to cost you...brutal; just brutal. 

He’s a lottery ticket. He could legit hit 40+ (Prorated this year) hrs from the catcher position plus he plays in the best lineup in baseball and against 2 teams with no pitching .. Boston and Baltimore.  He’s worth something but I agree people do overpay.

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17 minutes ago, Flyman75 said:

 

In his first two seasons, he put up a combined .284 BA. The last two have been awful, but I think the hope remains that he can find that middle ground and be a .250-.260 hitter who will obviously load up on the HRs for you. 

He is fundamentally flawed as a hitter with a swing for the fences mentality imo.  A mistake hitter that is easily fooled.  I don't see that changing.  Best case imo is a 240-260 hitter with 40HRs and a lot of Ks.  Worst case, a Mendoza line challenged hitter with 200+Ks and 25-35 Hrs.

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1 hour ago, Flyman75 said:

 

In his first two seasons, he put up a combined .284 BA. The last two have been awful, but I think the hope remains that he can find that middle ground and be a .250-.260 hitter who will obviously load up on the HRs for you. 

That’s fair. I guess it just feels like the past two years have been so bad in the BA department that I didn’t even realize that it was only a couple years ago, Sanchez was still sporting a serviceable average.

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50 minutes ago, secretagentman said:

He is fundamentally flawed as a hitter with a swing for the fences mentality imo.  A mistake hitter that is easily fooled.  I don't see that changing.  Best case imo is a 240-260 hitter with 40HRs and a lot of Ks.  Worst case, a Mendoza line challenged hitter with 200+Ks and 25-35 Hrs.

 

8 minutes ago, Chest-Rockwell said:

That’s fair. I guess it just feels like the past two years have been so bad in the BA department that I didn’t even realize that it was only a couple years ago, Sanchez was still sporting a serviceable average.

 

This is my first go-round as a Sanchez owner, lol. So I was hopeful for the .250ish-35 HR version of Sanchez when we drafted (prior to covid). Now I'm just smh. 

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13 hours ago, DrizzleOnTop said:

ok so in a 60 game season we have to seriously consider alternatives...game 20? 

 

If guys like Max Stassi are still available I would. Catchers like Sanchez who have no power arent that valuable. 🙃

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