SharkSwimmer 4,812 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 3/22/2020 at 1:15 PM, SyNdicateZ said: Give me a GUARANTEED work horse (and is TALENTED) on all 3 downs in the 3rd round all day! I guess Bell's performance wasn't quite as guaranteed as you thought it would be. Are you still using him in your starting lineup in fantasy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ILuvABGs 45 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Time to take this trash to the dumpster. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thrill22 82 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, ILuvABGs said: Time to take this trash to the dumpster. Still better than his NY situation. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spyplane 1,581 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 hours ago, ILuvABGs said: Time to take this trash to the dumpster. One week later: Clyde Edwards-Helaire goes down pulled hammy and misses three weeks. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,812 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 11 hours ago, Spyplane said: One week later: Clyde Edwards-Helaire goes down pulled hammy and misses three weeks. And Bell still does nearly nothing in his three-man committee with Darrel Williams and Darwin Thompson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spyplane 1,581 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Confirmed. 💩 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MagikarpeDiem 228 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Spyplane said: Confirmed. 💩 Yup so much for the move to KC being good for his career. He’ll be lucky to get signed anywhere next season with this kind of play. Should have taken the 2 year deal the dolphins were reportedly offering Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harck 478 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Yeah he's still got moves but he just has no burst and doesn't really get extra yardage on his falls. I was wrong about him this year and seems like he's going to be a backup or change of pace back for the rest of his NFL career. Sad to see him now after watching him in Pittsburg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,812 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Why would any smart team bring in Bell as a backup? But I guess the same goes for Lesean McCoy and Frank Gore... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,812 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 4:16 PM, SharkSwimmer said: And Bell still does nearly nothing in his three-man committee with Darrel Williams and Darwin Thompson. Looks like I got one part of this wrong: No Darwin Thompson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spyplane 1,581 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 13 hours ago, MagikarpeDiem said: Yup so much for the move to KC being good for his career. He’ll be lucky to get signed anywhere next season with this kind of play. Should have taken the 2 year deal the dolphins were reportedly offering Well, that's assuming they would want to keep him. Gaskin looks like a much better player at this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spyplane 1,581 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 12 hours ago, SharkSwimmer said: Why would any smart team bring in Bell as a backup? But I guess the same goes for Lesean McCoy and Frank Gore... Gore is one of the all time greats and he's a very good role model for young players. Bell has none of that based on how he's handled his career for the last three years. Gore had his last 1,000 yards rushing season at age 33. Bell may be out of the league for three years by age 33. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pastorofmuppets2 10,612 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 THEORY: Bell and his agent both knew that L'ev is currently a mere dried out husk of the player he once was. ergo, accepting the gig in either Buffalo or Miami would've thrust him into a more prominent role, which would've solidified his JAGness to the rest of the leeg. so they opted for the juggernaut - a team which could deliver him a ring with him being no more than a sparsely counted on cog. of course, they can always counter in the offseason that he never was given a chance to get into a rhythm with KC ... that they were too pass heavy, etc. ... but the tape ain't gonna lie, it will tell the real story. this cat is cooked. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rigadoog 270 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, pastorofmuppets2 said: THEORY: Bell and his agent both knew that L'ev is currently a mere dried out husk of the player he once was. ergo, accepting the gig in either Buffalo or Miami would've thrust him into a more prominent role, which would've solidified his JAGness to the rest of the leeg. so they opted for the juggernaut - a team which could deliver him a ring with him being no more than a sparsely counted on cog. Bell: "I'm a competitor. I love to win, that's why i chose the Chiefs." 😄 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
this guy right here 986 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Spyplane said: Gore is one of the all time greats Frank Gore is a compiler of stats. He's never lead the league in a single category. Only had double digit TOTAL TDs once (13) in 16 years. Only helped his team to the playoffs 5 times in 16 year. One SB. Never won a Super Bowl. His ability to stay healthy is amazing. I can't speak to his locker room presence as I've never been in one with him. All-Time greats are the best of the best. He's never been the best. His career totals are up they're due to longevity. He's an All-Time healthy and above average. If he retired three years ago he would've faded into obscurity with only people from this generation occasionally trying to remember "who's that guy was who started with SF and played a bunch of years after? " Instead he played 3+ more years, clogged up back fields at >4 a clip, slightly padded his stats with the media constantly reminding us how long he played. Edited December 8, 2020 by this guy right here 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,812 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 48 minutes ago, this guy right here said: Frank Gore is a compiler of stats. He's never lead the league in a single category. Only had double digit TOTAL TDs once (13) in 16 years. Only helped his team to the playoffs 5 times in 16 year. One SB. Never won a Super Bowl. His ability to stay healthy is amazing. I can't speak to his locker room presence as I've never been in one with him. All-Time greats are the best of the best. He's never been the best. His career totals are up they're due to longevity. He's an All-Time healthy and above average. If he retired three years ago he would've faded into obscurity with only people from this generation occasionally trying to remember "who's that guy was who started with SF and played a bunch of years after? " Instead he played 3+ more years, clogged up back fields at >4 a clip, slightly padded his stats with the media constantly reminding us how long he played. All 100% true except for the 'above average' part. Gore has actually been about the 40th-best running back in the league for most of the years he has played. And yet, even Gore ran circles around Bell this year, both when they were teammates and when they were not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spyplane 1,581 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 hours ago, this guy right here said: Frank Gore is a compiler of stats. He's never lead the league in a single category. Only had double digit TOTAL TDs once (13) in 16 years. Only helped his team to the playoffs 5 times in 16 year. One SB. Never won a Super Bowl. His ability to stay healthy is amazing. I can't speak to his locker room presence as I've never been in one with him. All-Time greats are the best of the best. He's never been the best. His career totals are up they're due to longevity. He's an All-Time healthy and above average. If he retired three years ago he would've faded into obscurity with only people from this generation occasionally trying to remember "who's that guy was who started with SF and played a bunch of years after? " Instead he played 3+ more years, clogged up back fields at >4 a clip, slightly padded his stats with the media constantly reminding us how long he played. Just because you don't value what he's accomplished doesn't mean he's not making the HOF. He is and if he retired at age 33 he'd still get in. Staying healthy while taking constant punishment is a key ability for a successful RB in the NFL. It's not fluke. Its toughness, work ethic, attention to detail, consistency, etc. He's a blue collar runner and he has my respect. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spyplane 1,581 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Also, since when have RB's ever been graded on win percentages, playoff records and super bowls? That's a new one to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,812 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 The NFL Hall of Fame should be for those who dominated the league and were the best or among the best at their position for a good solid stretch. During Gore's best couple of years, he was a top 10 guy. But for the vast majority? Workmanlike plugger. You going to put the longest-serving LS into the Hall of Fame because the guy played 15 seasons or something? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,812 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 But, since this is the Le'Veon Bell thread, let's go back to him. If Bell played for 10 more years and rushed for about 500 yards and 2 TDs per season over that stretch, would Bell be a Hall of Famer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rigadoog 270 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 43 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said: But, since this is the Le'Veon Bell thread, let's go back to him. If Bell played for 10 more years and rushed for about 500 yards and 2 TDs per season over that stretch, would Bell be a Hall of Famer? That's even an unfavorable example for you, since Bell actually did have a few years where he was legitimately elite, at least as far as production. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,812 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 hours ago, rigadoog said: That's even an unfavorable example for you, since Bell actually did have a few years where he was legitimately elite, at least as far as production. Possibly. But that is the point. If Bell's career ended tomorrow (very possible, btw), would Bell be a Hall of Famer? Seems extremely unlikely. So should Bell's odds improve if he turns in 10 more seasons of rbbc type production? I don't see why it should, for either Bell or Gore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ILuvABGs 45 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 The iconic LeVeon Bell portrait. The picture of success. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colepenhagen 3,479 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, ILuvABGs said: The iconic LeVeon Bell portrait. The picture of success. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yossarian 3,519 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Spyplane said: Just because you don't value what he's accomplished doesn't mean he's not making the HOF. He is and if he retired at age 33 he'd still get in. Staying healthy while taking constant punishment is a key ability for a successful RB in the NFL. It's not fluke. Its toughness, work ethic, attention to detail, consistency, etc. He's a blue collar runner and he has my respect. Nah. "I was really healthy for a long time" shouldn't get you in the hall of fame. Sorry. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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