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1 minute ago, Backdoor Slider said:

Washington is 24th in the country at 36% farmland. 
Michigan is 33rd in the country at 28%. 
 

But, that was NEVER the topic. And don’t twist this. It’s not that I can’t disprove something. You claimed something you have no proof of. 

The topic was seeming seeds essential or not. Can you not buy seeds online in Michigan? They only deemed large scale (over 50,000 square feet) businesses as unable to sell garden needs. 
Direct quote: The executive order says all stores more than 50,000 square feet must close sections selling carpeting, flooring, furniture, plants and gardening supplies, and paint, to encourage social distancing and prevent shoppers from crowding aisles.

 

The original post was about not being able to buy seeds... you easily still can, even in Michigan. There is a shortage online as I have already posted. In Washington you cannot buy ANY seeds in stores where I live regardless of size because of the executive orders. You can buy online but that’s it. Any in store order in this county can only be made by farmers and must be shipped to their home in order to continue social distancing. But sure, keep moving those goal posts because I don’t have a transcript of a specific press conference when there are fifty per week. 

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2 minutes ago, 89Topps said:

 

My wife literally bought seeds yesterday.  The nursery by our house had plenty.  Maybe stop assuming what's happening in your particular town is typical nation-wide.

I’ve literally stated it is in my state... there are also shortages online nationwide. And even in state it’s different county to county. You live more towards Seattle correct? I live near most of the Washington farmland which will be feeding our country as this goes worse.

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Lol at people saying apparently any information must only be allowed if it is true nationwide. Yes, that would be no information as each state is grossly different. In Michigan, you can’t even drive to another house you own right now. 

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52 minutes ago, azeri98 said:

I don't think Tennis is close. The players and ball people will be touching the balls that the players sweat all over not to mention giving the players towels which they wipe themselves off with and throw it back to the ball person

 

If only there was something else they could do with towels.

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2 hours ago, daynlokki said:

That's what my GOVERNOR said when they made it so regular people cannot buy them.  Washington needs the seeds for farmers.  Press conference.

They also said they were nearing a point where they would have to turn off online ordering and just fill what they have... when you cannot order something that is considered a shortage as well.  You don't need a stockpile shortage to still have one if the market cannot fulfill orders.  

 

When did he say that?  Because I can buy seeds down the street from my house.

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1 minute ago, 89Topps said:

 

When did he say that?  Because I can buy seeds down the street from my house.

This last week. Pertaining to the more agricultural portions of the state. Once again, assuming you live in an area around Seattle? Where little farming happens comparatively to the rest of the state? Orders will be different there. Just like how in Clark county they have different shelter in place orders compared to Cowlitz despite them being connected. 

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20 minutes ago, daynlokki said:

 In Washington you cannot buy ANY seeds in stores where I live regardless of size because of the executive orders. You can buy online but that’s it.

 

9 minutes ago, 89Topps said:

 

When did he say that?  Because I can buy seeds down the street from my house.

 

5 minutes ago, daynlokki said:

This last week. Pertaining to the more agricultural portions of the state. Once again, assuming you live in an area around Seattle? Where little farming happens comparatively to the rest of the state? Orders will be different there. Just like how in Clark county they have different shelter in place orders compared to Cowlitz despite them being connected. 

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[ Guys, the seeds thing was tiresome ten volleys ago.  Move on. ]

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18 minutes ago, 89Topps said:

 

If only there was something else they could do with towels.

Like throw them away? Janitors are dying too. 

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59 minutes ago, jonninho said:

It does. I have met Trout a few times and that is the vibe he presents.. home body.. really chill.. not a party kinda guy.. eats,breaths,talks,lives baseball.. i guess he needs more in life..

Didnt read the link.. but i am assuming thats a ban on fans being in attendance for sporting events.. i can see concert bans lasting till 2021, but not sporting events.

No the way I read it is events Period

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25 minutes ago, 89Topps said:

 

If only there was something else they could do with towels.

I guess they could just keep walking back and forth to their chairs, but doing that in between each point would take forever.

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41 minutes ago, azeri98 said:

I guess they could just keep walking back and forth to their chairs, but doing that in between each point would take forever.

 

Maybe they can play tennis without towels. 

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3 minutes ago, MrBrett said:

One of the standards is the test works as well as it does in a hospital setting. That’s currently a reported 30-50% false negative rate depending where you work. Wouldn’t want to get on a field with that many other people if the case of false negatives is near that high. That’s like a porn star jointing a gangbang when the HIV test has a 30% false negative rate. Probably not gonna go well. 

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USA more new cases (30,206) than Italy, Spain, France, Germany and the U.K. (20,972)  as the time moves to a new day. 2,482 total deaths in the 24 hour period, still only 48,701 recoveries to the overall death count of 28,529. Covid deaths have almost reached the total death count of last seasonal flu, despite only being in country for less than half a year and major social distancing and shutdowns. 

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Only way I see sports/live events is medical research breakthroughs that would allow stadiums to do a 5-15 minute test on everyone in the stadium as part of a security check. This would require highly accurate tests and billions of them

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2 minutes ago, daynlokki said:

USA more new cases (30,206) than Italy, Spain, France, Germany and the U.K. (20,972)  as the time moves to a new day. 2,482 total deaths in the 24 hour period, still only 48,701 recoveries to the overall death count of 28,529. Covid deaths have almost reached the total death count of last seasonal flu, despite only being in country for less than half a year and major social distancing and shutdowns. 

Comparing covid numbers to the flu numbers is not factual. There is a vaccine for the seasonal flu that works a little bit...No vaccine for this bad boy and it spreads asymptomatic

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49 minutes ago, OaksterDan said:

 

Maybe they can play tennis without towels. 

 

Yeah. Or paper towels. Or, they just use their own towels and keep them on a rack or over the back of a chair.  I swear to god, I have played tennis myself without towel boys. I don't know how, but I did it.

 This is the kind of stuff that strikes me as so defeatist it's almost paranoid.    

If you really think this is so bad that they won't be able to video 2 people playing tennis in a couple months, then you're basically saying this is the end of the world.  It might be!  I don't know.  But I'm at least open to the possibility it's not.  

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5 hours ago, Dr. Whom said:

Agreed...WHO declared COVID19 as a world pandemic on March 11, Trump/USA declared National Emergency March 13, and NY gov issued stay at home on March 19th. This thing just moved so fast that countries needed to research/declare/shutdown way before WHO declaring it as a world pandemic.

 

US intelligence reported a potential cataclysmic pandemic in late November. WHO declared a worldwide health emergency in January. China began locking down ten percent of the worlds population on January 23. US politicians began dumping stocks in mid February. Hell even I moved my retirement account to cash on Feb 28th (and since have been completely perplexed at it bouncing back while I stay in cash???).  On March 2nd I sent an email to employees saying we were likely to start seeing widespread cases and to stay home if sick and to wash hands after touching common public surfaces, etc.  It didn’t move nearly as fast and unexpectedly as you’re suggesting

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36 minutes ago, Dr. Whom said:

Comparing covid numbers to the flu numbers is not factual. There is a vaccine for the seasonal flu that works a little bit...No vaccine for this bad boy and it spreads asymptomatic

I know that. Reporting numbers. Which is why I said it was reaching last years total flu related deaths and has been here for less than half a year through severe social distancing. Flu can spread asymptomatically too while more rare. The problem with covid isn’t specifically that. It’s the incubation period of two weeks that makes you able to infect others extremely well. 

 

8 minutes ago, merlin401 said:

 

US intelligence reported a potential cataclysmic pandemic in late November. WHO declared a worldwide health emergency in January. China began locking down ten percent of the worlds population on January 23. US politicians began dumping stocks in mid February. Hell even I moved my retirement account to cash on Feb 28th (and since have been completely perplexed at it bouncing back while I stay in cash???).  On March 2nd I sent an email to employees saying we were likely to start seeing widespread cases and to stay home if sick and to wash hands after touching common public surfaces, etc.  It didn’t move nearly as fast and unexpectedly as you’re suggesting

I shorted the market before the first DOW plunge. 

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13 minutes ago, merlin401 said:

 

US intelligence reported a potential cataclysmic pandemic in late November. WHO declared a worldwide health emergency in January. China began locking down ten percent of the worlds population on January 23. US politicians began dumping stocks in mid February. Hell even I moved my retirement account to cash on Feb 28th (and since have been completely perplexed at it bouncing back while I stay in cash???).  On March 2nd I sent an email to employees saying we were likely to start seeing widespread cases and to stay home if sick and to wash hands after touching common public surfaces, etc.  It didn’t move nearly as fast and unexpectedly as you’re suggesting

Exactly...you should have shut down your business instead of sending out an email and cashing your retirement. You endangered all your employees and deserve all the blame if anyone got sick at your work

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1 hour ago, daynlokki said:

One of the standards is the test works as well as it does in a hospital setting. That’s currently a reported 30-50% false negative rate depending where you work. Wouldn’t want to get on a field with that many other people if the case of false negatives is near that high. That’s like a porn star jointing a gangbang when the HIV test has a 30% false negative rate. Probably not gonna go well. 

Absolutely right, as the article points  out. When this issue is worked out( hopefully asap) this will be helpful to many. Don't you agree? 

A vaccine is a year away, testing at home will be necessary in the meantime.

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7 minutes ago, Dr. Whom said:

Exactly...you should have shut down your business instead of sending out an email and cashing your retirement. You endangered all your employees and deserve all the blame if anyone got sick at your work

 

Not really like that. I run a tutoring center at my university so my student workers and I were there until the University shut down (march 11)

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11 minutes ago, MrBrett said:

Absolutely right, as the article points  out. When this issue is worked out( hopefully asap) this will be helpful to many. Don't you agree? 

A vaccine is a year away, testing at home will be necessary in the meantime.

Ok so how much do you think each individual home test is gonna cost?

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2 hours ago, azeri98 said:

I guess they could just keep walking back and forth to their chairs, but doing that in between each point would take forever.

 

Or toss them in a bin and get a fresh one or something

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