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11 minutes ago, tucker26 said:

Is an August start date even viable?

I don't think so.

Even if you find resolutions to the idea of playing postseason baseball after Thanksgiving I think combining that with a season of 100 games or so played 7 days a week with regular DHers would never be approved by the player's union.

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It's difficult to envision a semblance of a season starting after July. Ugh.

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2 hours ago, tucker26 said:


 

TuesdayJuly 14

2020 Major League Baseball All-Star Game

Okay, let's cross our fingers this happens :) 

I'd take that. 82 games. Reduce the playoff scope. All good. July 14th would probably allow for even more baseball than that.

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1 hour ago, tucker26 said:


"Don't go to the grocery store. Don't go to the drive thru's." "Act like you have it and stay home."

Yep. A lot of grocery stores offer a pickup service too. Use it. Screw drive thrus. 

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47 minutes ago, 2ndCitySox said:

Yep. A lot of grocery stores offer a pickup service too. Use it. Screw drive thrus. 


PB&J, frozen pizza, etc. feel like a kid again with my recent diet. 

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What effect will this virus have on unborn babies in the womb during this pandemic? They are our future after-all, no mention about that potential....

On a lighter note, Will they be referred to as "Coronials"?

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4 minutes ago, Members_Only_76 said:


PB&J, frozen pizza, etc. feel like a kid again with my recent diet. 

My wife is Italian. In a way it’s been good because we’ve been planning for this for years apparently. Jars of sauce and pasta in the pantry in the basement for days. 

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Even if I envision the season starting, I have a hard time envisioning it not stopping again with a minor outbreak (that may or may not include players).

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2 hours ago, GamblorLA said:

 

It really depends how you interpret it, and of course, what your views are.  So many people live pay check to pay check that it kind of makes the whole system fragile, which I think is one of the underlying points.  Another thing we're going to have to confront after this is our healthcare situation.  Only here in the U.S. will so many survivors come out of this tens of thousands in debt.  We have the most expensive healthcare system in the world, by far.  And the least paid sick leave of any developed country, by far. And the least vacation time as well. So Joe Blow is going to really get hammered in the United States, like in no other country.  Now couple this with your points, like tax revenue taking a big hit. All the existing medical debt. All the student loan debt. All the existing federal debt. Man, it starts to look like a house of cards.  

 

Hopefully not too "partisan" but maybe more people are going to kind of come around to the view that working in a grocery store, hardware store or gas station is not a crime and we need people to do those jobs, so perhaps they shouldn't have to live in desperation.  

 

There's also the front end failures that are going to exacerbate the back end.  IDK for sure, but maybe if we had done a much better job testing people, we'd know who had already been exposed and those people could then safely return to work, allowing us to get the economy cranking again.  But instead, we were poorly prepared even with adequate warning and it's going to hurt everyone from rich to poor.

I think people from all political perspectives have become increasingly aware that very few of the people in DC are operating in anything close to good faith. I mean sure, politics has always been sleazy, but it's gone beyond that, which is reflected in the quality of life for many millions.  And this is really bringing it to a head. We're seen both parties treating a significant crisis largely as just another opportunity to look out for themselves and their buddies. 

There have been so many, "you have absolutely got to be kidding me" moments from both parties: bailouts for CASINOS? For cruise lines that fly under foreign flags to avoid taxes? Continuing with primaries? Senators doing insider trading? etc.  

So, hopefully this does prompt some fundamental change.  Maybe it's what Homer Simpson would call a crisi-tunity 

The overhead for casinos is massive. Add in that security and surveillance are essential personnel and still have to work without money coming in definitely will hurt. It’s not like these corporations have a ton of money just chilling in the bank to pay for things that still will run during a lockdown. 

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1 hour ago, Fbaseballgod said:


I’m not sure, and no I’m not trying to suggest anything.  I just feel like it’s weird that many officials and scientists are in full blown panic mode, hospitals are running out of ventilators at the very START of the virus, and baseball is like “weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee we can get a full season in!!!”

Check who the clown commissioner is.

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I'm doing my best to avoid going out and eating what I have from home.  I have been craving some candy and also some fast food chicken (sandwich, tenders, nuggets, whatever) but I know going to 7-11 to get a bag of candy I'll look ridiculous.  I feel like just driving there to get in and out its mostly fine but still have to limit trips.  Probably should stock up on a big bag next time.

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6 minutes ago, MrBrown said:

I'm doing my best to avoid going out and eating what I have from home.  I have been craving some candy and also some fast food chicken (sandwich, tenders, nuggets, whatever) but I know going to 7-11 to get a bag of candy I'll look ridiculous.  I feel like just driving there to get in and out its mostly fine but still have to limit trips.  Probably should stock up on a big bag next time.

Order a couple bags from Walmart.

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19 minutes ago, fletch44 said:

Order a couple bags from Walmart.


I’m so not in tune with these new/convenient ways of doing things. I guess call me old fashioned, lol. How does this work, with say Walmart? I’m assuming it’s the same concept as curbside pickup at the grocery store? You order online and then pickup yourself at the Walmart pickup center? You still have to see/be in contact with someone at time of pickup, no? And then there’s the issue of having the bags/items exposed too?

Interested to hear how this whole thing works. 

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At our local grocery store, they're picking the items for you and putting them in your car.  I guess there's a possibility of transmission through the bags and the items themselves, but if you wipe everything you should be okay.

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7 minutes ago, Sonny_D said:


I’m so not in tune with these new/convenient ways of doing things. I guess call me old fashioned, lol. How does this work, with say Walmart? I’m assuming it’s the same concept as curbside pickup at the grocery store? You order online and then pickup yourself at the Walmart pickup center? You still have to see/be in contact with someone at time of pickup, no? And then there’s the issue of having the bags/items exposed too?

Interested to hear how this whole thing works. 

A lot of the items from Walmart is 2-day shipping for orders over $35.  So then basically wipe it down, wear gloves, etc. once you get it.  Its unlikely the virus would even survive on the packages during the 2-3 day transport unless it was sneezed on.

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25 minutes ago, daynlokki said:

The overhead for casinos is massive. Add in that security and surveillance are essential personnel and still have to work without money coming in definitely will hurt. It’s not like these corporations have a ton of money just chilling in the bank to pay for things that still will run during a lockdown. 

 

As crooked as things are, my jaw still hit the floor when I saw that the idea of giving our tax money to casinos had even crossed someone's mind.

I make pretty much all of my income from casinos and I'm taking it in the shorts at the moment, so a bail out for them is good for me personally.  Hell, from a selfish POV, I'd like the gov to just send them money all the time!

However, they provide no real service. They are basically drug dealers. In economic terms, they generate a lot of external costs and virtually no external benefits.  I really can't fathom any argument for tax payers bailing out investors who have made a bet on casinos and lost. Almost any business you can name serves the public interest better.

Contrast that with airlines, which facilitate all kinds of other business (massive external benefit), allow us to visit relatives, etc. We need airlines. 

Casino jobs can be pretty decent. I used to be a casino worker myself (and I saw plenty of people destroy their lives).  But if the aim is to help the workers, just cut out the middle man.  Give them some cash. New investors will emerge and they'll have jobs again on the other side.  There will never be a shortage of capital wanting to invest in a business where, to paraphrase Casino, my favorite movie, you sell people dreams for cash.

Pretty sure Wynn, The Ferttitas, Adleson, The Boyd family, etc. will be OK too.  

 

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10 minutes ago, MrBrown said:

A lot of the items from Walmart is 2-day shipping for orders over $35.  So then basically wipe it down, wear gloves, etc. once you get it.  Its unlikely the virus would even survive on the packages during the 2-3 day transport unless it was sneezed on.

Walmart here takes 2 weeks for groceries.  I found another one that takes 3 days.  Which is acceptable.  First time for me too.  They give you a scheduled drop off time.  Guy got out of his car wearing gloves...dropped it on my porch.I wiped everything except for produce with a lysol wipe. Put the groceries away,then washed my hands like a killer trying to get blood off of them. Just the new normal for me.  

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21 minutes ago, Sonny_D said:


I’m so not in tune with these new/convenient ways of doing things. I guess call me old fashioned, lol. How does this work, with say Walmart? I’m assuming it’s the same concept as curbside pickup at the grocery store? You order online and then pickup yourself at the Walmart pickup center? You still have to see/be in contact with someone at time of pickup, no? And then there’s the issue of having the bags/items exposed too?

Interested to hear how this whole thing works. 

You order from Walmart online and they ship it to you. You don't have to be there for delivery. They'll drop it off on your doorstep or in your complex. I've been doing this for general household items for several years just out of laziness so I don't have to goto the store.

As of a few weeks ago you could do this for pretty much any product at Walmart or Target or whoever. Now higher demand products such as toilet paper, clorox wipes, etc are unavailable for shipping. And other things you'll see as "pick up only" meaning you order online and have goto the store to pickup. I've never done the pickup option before. 

And yes, there is still risk with bags/packaging being exposed but it seems safer than actually shopping in the store. You can handle with gloves and wipe the packaging down.

 

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Also related to grocery shopping I found this to be pretty educational...

 

 

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They'll deliver most of the junk but a lot of the actual groceries are in-store only.  Probably have to take one trip and stock up. Go away COVID19!!!

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5 minutes ago, MrBrown said:

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Right behind Italy in number of cases. 😕

This doesn't really mean anything one way or another.  Our population is much larger overall than Italy.

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2 minutes ago, El_Chingon said:

This doesn't really mean anything one way or another.  Our population is much larger overall than Italy.

The numbers are meaningless?  :rolleyes: sure.

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