Ronald Jones 2020 Outlook

[crispy131313 21]

He’s the RB10 in half PPR, with only two games under 8 points.  I start him every game what’s the big issue.  He’s not Kamara or Cook, but he wasn’t drafted to be either. 

[Hops 141]

46 minutes ago, Prezkot said:

I've created a handy flow chart for those of us who own Tampa Bay running backs and are perpetually on the fence about starting them. Enjoy!

haha pretty legit except that is not Fournette in the picture 🤔

[Prezkot 496]

6 minutes ago, Hops said:

haha pretty legit except that is not Fournette in the picture 🤔

 

Ahhh crap I need to up the prescription in my glasses.

[Prezkot 496]

Ok I put on my two pairs of glasses, face shield, newsboy cap and headset on. Let's try this again:

[THE_MAGIC_MAN 726]

2 hours ago, Krustyburger said:

See above Flow Chart

drop a top 10RB?. quit buggin around. you are overly exaggerating.

[jdizzle 182]

It’s obvious Arians trusts Fournette more than Jones. Mainly in pass protection so Fournette is probably the guy to own moving forward but messy situation. 

[Members_Only_76 7,249]

Not a good matchup but that was brutal

[owenmills 5,326]

8 hours ago, jdizzle said:

It’s obvious Arians trusts Fournette more than Jones. Mainly in pass protection so Fournette is probably the guy to own moving forward but messy situation. 

How many time have people said this this year? Fournette is the play going forward then Rojo outplays him next game. Haha. Rojo is a matchup play though, I’ve said that a couple times recently. If it’s a team the Bucs can run on he can rack up touches and do well. They know they need to take the pressure off Brady with a run game. A game like this you have to shy away. Fournette is maybe a desperation play in games like this. 

[lolcopter 7,776]

neither of these RBs is "the play" ROS unless your roster sucks

[fjthegrey 273]

3 minutes ago, lolcopter said:

neither of these RBs is "the play" ROS unless your roster sucks

Nope. But they might come back to bite you.

Smart move is to trade them to teams you don't have to play 

[jdizzle 182]

1 minute ago, fjthegrey said:

Nope. But they might come back to bite you.

Smart move is to trade them to teams you don't have to play 

No legit leagues will let you trade this late in season. Trade deadline has passed 

[owenmills 5,326]

41 minutes ago, lolcopter said:

neither of these RBs is "the play" ROS unless your roster sucks

Not so sure about that in 12 team leagues. Have you seen the RB landscape this season? Weeks 14-16 Tampa plays some soft run defenses and Rojo is definitely on the RB2 map. KC next weekend, could be another fade. Although they don't have a good run defense either. Just a matter of whether Tampa can stay in the game

Edited November 24, 2020 by owenmills

[fbi314159 157]

24 minutes ago, owenmills said:

Not so sure about that in 12 team leagues. Have you seen the RB landscape this season? Weeks 14-16 Tampa plays some soft run defenses and Rojo is definitely on the RB2 map. KC next weekend, could be another fade. Although they don't have a good run defense either. Just a matter of whether Tampa can stay in the game

 

One reason they aren't staying in games is that they are not committed to the run.  They run on first.  Then they try and pass the remaining downs.  I don't believe I saw two run attempts in a row.  Every run was also on first down.  Sure they didn't get much on most of those, but the play-calling was eminently predictable.

It reminded me of the Ram's of the late 70's or early 80's when they ran the 4P offense.  Plunge, plunge, pass, punt.  The Buccs run the plunge, pass, pass, punt variation.

Edited November 24, 2020 by fbi314159

[BIGFATPANDA 426]

Drop city...

[kp96 688]

I would say Rojo is a high ceiling, low floor, low end RB2 type.  Fournette has a lower ceiling and slightly higher floor due to passing game work.  Neither is very appealing to start but that, of course, depends on your roster.  Certainly Rojo can be played if you are looking for upside.  But you need to be prepared for a horrible game too.

I wouldn't drop either guy right now but would not be happy starting either.  Means you have problems at RB.

[HeHateMe23 119]

He's only playable vs bad defenses/run defenses... and even then it's a crap shoot.. But RB is so bad this year and this guy can get you 30 sooo you can't drop him.

[sSektor 2,191]

Play Rojo in soft matchups that the Bucs should easily win. Play Fournette never unless you hate yourself and/or are desperate.

[AJx88x 53]

1 hour ago, owenmills said:

Not so sure about that in 12 team leagues. Have you seen the RB landscape this season? Weeks 14-16 Tampa plays some soft run defenses and Rojo is definitely on the RB2 map. KC next weekend, could be another fade. Although they don't have a good run defense either. Just a matter of whether Tampa can stay in the game

 

He's definitely a hold in 12-team leagues, people that are saying drop must be in 10-team leagues or less.

[Blats 34]

Start Fournette and RoJo goes off. Start RoJo and Fournette doesn’t go off, but gets majority snaps. I hate myself for owning these two players. 

[TeflonDonNewcombe 75]

This has to be a Ronald game. If the Bucs come out and throw the ball 40+ times the Chiefs are going to win. You do not want to get into a shootout with Mahomes. Slow the game down, establish the run and keep the Chiefs offense off the field as much as possible. Long, sustaining drives. You can run on the Chiefs.. it can be done. Then when the defense has to respect the run, they can't pin their ears back and the field will open up for Tom. You would've thought they learned their lessons after the Saints game but this coaching staff is insufferable. 

 

I'm starting him this week (over Gio and Duke which isn't saying a whole lot) and praying Bruce and Byron see the errors of their ways. They can't beat any respectable opponents with how predictable they were on offense against the Rams. Please, Bruce, you crusty old bastard.. let Ronald run. 

[cbsholy 657]

2 hours ago, TeflonDonNewcombe said:

This has to be a Ronald game. If the Bucs come out and throw the ball 40+ times the Chiefs are going to win. You do not want to get into a shootout with Mahomes. Slow the game down, establish the run and keep the Chiefs offense off the field as much as possible. Long, sustaining drives. You can run on the Chiefs.. it can be done. Then when the defense has to respect the run, they can't pin their ears back and the field will open up for Tom. You would've thought they learned their lessons after the Saints game but this coaching staff is insufferable. 

 

I'm starting him this week (over Gio and Duke which isn't saying a whole lot) and praying Bruce and Byron see the errors of their ways. They can't beat any respectable opponents with how predictable they were on offense against the Rams. Please, Bruce, you crusty old bastard.. let Ronald run. 

I dont have Ronald Jones or Fournette. I actually have Brady. But I thought this was a great post. Well said. 

[SadFaceHappy 2,049]

19 hours ago, TeflonDonNewcombe said:

This has to be a Ronald game. If the Bucs come out and throw the ball 40+ times the Chiefs are going to win. You do not want to get into a shootout with Mahomes. Slow the game down, establish the run and keep the Chiefs offense off the field as much as possible. Long, sustaining drives. You can run on the Chiefs.. it can be done. Then when the defense has to respect the run, they can't pin their ears back and the field will open up for Tom. You would've thought they learned their lessons after the Saints game but this coaching staff is insufferable. 

 

I'm starting him this week (over Gio and Duke which isn't saying a whole lot) and praying Bruce and Byron see the errors of their ways. They can't beat any respectable opponents with how predictable they were on offense against the Rams. Please, Bruce, you crusty old bastard.. let Ronald run. 

I'm starting him this week too.  It's his turn in my rotation of choosing between Jones, Fournette, Moss, Harris, and Dobbins at RB2.

Bucs are an easy enough team to assess this year.  Play Jones against average to bad defenses.

[BrianM 1,204]

I just got him in a trade for mostly peanuts, and I like the back to back Atlanta-Detroit play to close the season.    I've been a hater of his but the overall production here is strong and I think TB is crazy if they let Fournette still get a significant share after last week's game.   Could be the guy to put me over the top

[ILuvABGs 45]

Is it crazy to consider dropping him?

[TeflonDonNewcombe 75]

50 minutes ago, ILuvABGs said:

Is it crazy to consider dropping him?

I guess I’d be curious who you’re dropping him for and other drop options you might have. If he’s your worst player you’re doing alright. I think there is still too much upside and he’s flashed extremely well on several occasions this year. Plus Lenny was a blooper reel last week against LA. Just have to hope the CS wakes the hell up and gives Ronald the run he deserves. I’d understand if you’re in win now and have an upside play but I’m refusing to give up hope plus his playoff schedule is juicy.