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Adam Thielen 2020 Outlook

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14 minutes ago, joshua18 said:


LOL at this. Theilen HAS been the best Minn WR since 2016. Unlike Juju, he actually has produced top-5 seasons while facing #1 CBs.  If you think defenses were more afraid of Diggs while Theilen was setting NFL records for 100+ yard games, you either weren’t watching tape or assume that he’s not great bc he is white.

I hope taeks like the quoted post push his value down. A phenomenal player to trade for in dynasty leagues right now.

 

 

The only reason Thielen was putting up those 100 yard games was because of Diggs. Diggs dictated coverage, not Thielen. Diggs being on the field means 1-on-1 matchups over the middle all game long. Thielen was NEVER a better WR than Diggs, ever. Is Tyler Boyd a better WR than AJ Green? That's essentially what you're saying.

Football 101 - Slot receivers, or #2 receivers, are better when they have a #1 outside WR on the field at the same time.

Tyler Boyd is better when he has AJ Green dictating coverage.

Cooper Kupp is better when he has Brandin Cooks stretching the field.

Juju SS is better when he has Antonio Brown dictating coverage.

Adam Thielen is better when he has Stefon Diggs dictating coverage.

Calvin Ridley is better when he has Julio Jones dictating coverage.

Etc. Etc.

 

 

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Justin Jefferson playing well in his rookie campaign will do wonders for Thielen. Expect max coverage coming his way for awhile, if not the whole season , if JJ doesn’t perform well. There won’t be a lack of targets .. that much I do know. But it’s the quality of those passes that concern me. No doubt Dalvin and the run game will open up the play action passes. Adam should feast on those plays. But regular QB dropback sets , we shall see. Who knows maybe eventually Justin Jefferson is the new Thielen . Both are technically made for the slot, neither one of them is a true outside reciever.  

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1 hour ago, euphoriahbo said:

 

 

The only reason Thielen was putting up those 100 yard games was because of Diggs. Diggs dictated coverage, not Thielen. Diggs being on the field means 1-on-1 matchups over the middle all game long. Thielen was NEVER a better WR than Diggs, ever. Is Tyler Boyd a better WR than AJ Green? That's essentially what you're saying.

Football 101 - Slot receivers, or #2 receivers, are better when they have a #1 outside WR on the field at the same time.

Tyler Boyd is better when he has AJ Green dictating coverage.

Cooper Kupp is better when he has Brandin Cooks stretching the field.

Juju SS is better when he has Antonio Brown dictating coverage.

Adam Thielen is better when he has Stefon Diggs dictating coverage.

Calvin Ridley is better when he has Julio Jones dictating coverage.

Etc. Etc.

 

 


Horrendous comparisons. Theilen has been the clear #1 in MIN by production for years. He is faster, stronger and taller than Diggs — all objective facts.  All those others are/were second fiddle. I know Diggs has hype, but he’s yet to outproduce Theilen when both are healthy. 
 

Theilen has consistently won in the slot or on the outside for years. 
 

So many butthurt Diggs fans have seen Theilen outproduce him for years.

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https://www.vikings.com/news/lunchbreak-pff-provides-inside-look-at-thielen-s-slot-success

 

article says 2017 and 2018 Thielen took 52.7 % of his snaps in the slot. I'm not pro or against Thielen just sharing info that I have found or that I actually seen but with Kubiak and Stefanski bribing in a completely different offense last year he took 29.3% of his snaps in the slot. I also remember at times watching him abuse linebackers, safeties and zone during his dominant runs but one game I seen the Saints say no to this and had Lattimore follow him around, Gilmore does this, Chris Harris but most top CB's stay outside no matter what. This is why Kupp was such a threat in 11 personnel but in 12 personnel his numbers suffered dramatically and he is overpriced this season. I believe Thielen is a good value in the late 4th/early 5th but to expect 2017 and 2018 numbers with the above aforementioned info and the fact that they threw 527 times in 2017 and 606 in 2018 but with the new regime only 466 and similarly to what the Rams moved more to they also now use lots of 12 formations with 2 TE's on the field.

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3 hours ago, joshua18 said:


LOL at this. Theilen HAS been the best Minn WR since 2016. Unlike Juju, he actually has produced top-5 seasons while facing #1 CBs.  If you think defenses were more afraid of Diggs while Theilen was setting NFL records for 100+ yard games, you either weren’t watching tape or assume that he’s not great bc he is white.

I hope taeks like the quoted post push his value down. A phenomenal player to trade for in dynasty leagues right now.

 

You had to go there didn't you?  He's not white.  He's white chocolate lightning...get your facts straight. 

 

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