SharkSwimmer 4,809 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 54 minutes ago, Bastardo! said: Outscored Julio in my standard league last year and had three times as many touchdowns as Julio in the second half last year, yet the excuses for Julio never end and the consensus on Kupp is that he's done. Interesting. You are comparing Julio Jones, a top 6 pick, 230 lbs 6'4 monster with 4.3 wheels and a Hall of Fame resume, to 6'2 210 4.6 speed 3rd rounder out of a lower division school Cooper Kupp? One of these things is not like the other. One of these kids is not the same... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bastardo! 1,475 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said: You are comparing Julio Jones, a top 6 pick, 230 lbs 6'4 monster with 4.3 wheels and a Hall of Fame resume, to 6'2 210 4.6 speed 3rd rounder out of a lower division school Cooper Kupp? One of these things is not like the other. One of these kids is not the same... Since the beginning of 2019, their stats are virtually identical and, in standard, Julio has outscored Kupp 10 times and Kupp has outscored Julio 8 times, so yeah, these two can absolutely not be compared because of the colleges they went to. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,196 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said: You are comparing Julio Jones, a top 6 pick, 230 lbs 6'4 monster with 4.3 wheels and a Hall of Fame resume, to 6'2 210 4.6 speed 3rd rounder out of a lower division school Cooper Kupp? One of these things is not like the other. One of these kids is not the same... Lower division school, but... Julio had 17 TDs in college. Kupp had 81. Yes 81, that's not a typo. As a pro, Kupp has scored a TD every 1.9 games. Julio has scored a TD every 2.2 games. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FitzMagic 4,260 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 My Kupp runneth over. Start with confidence ROS. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Resident A-hole 96 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Tre White is expected to shadow Woods in this game, leaving Kupp covered by Levi Wallace. Wallace is average at-best & had a lot of issues vs Dolphins receivers last week. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,809 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 @ajs1279 @Bastardo @Bastardo! Are you saying that if someone offered to trade Julio Jones to you in return for your Cooper Kupp, you would decline? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dboy94 36 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said: @ajs1279 @Bastardo @Bastardo! Are you saying that if someone offered to trade Julio Jones to you in return for your Cooper Kupp, you would decline? Start Edelman over Kupp this week? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bastardo! 1,475 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said: @ajs1279 @Bastardo @Bastardo! Are you saying that if someone offered to trade Julio Jones to you in return for your Cooper Kupp, you would decline? I did not say that. I never said that Cooper Kupp was better than Julio. I was comparing the responses that people have to two football players with very similar stats over their last 18 games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,196 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, SharkSwimmer said: @ajs1279 @Bastardo @Bastardo! Are you saying that if someone offered to trade Julio Jones to you in return for your Cooper Kupp, you would decline? As a Kupp owner in dynasty, I would NOT accept Julio for him straight up. In redraft, maybe, but it's really close, especially with Julio clearly hurting. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,809 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, ajs723 said: As a Kupp owner in dynasty, I would NOT accept Julio for him straight up. In redraft, maybe, but it's really close, especially with Julio clearly hurting. Okay thanks for playing bud. I was hoping you would write something along these lines. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,196 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, SharkSwimmer said: Okay thanks for playing bud. I was hoping you would write something along these lines. I don't think what I said is even hot-takey. Kupp is 4 years younger than Jones and putting up similar numbers. I think trading Kupp straight up for Jones in a dynasty league is an awful idea. For redraft, I think it's a fair trade. Again, one guy is going on 32 with a bum hamstring, and the other is right in his prime. There's a chance Julio isn't right much of this season and is already starting to fall off. He's a guy who wins with freakish athleticism, and those types usually don't age well. Of course, the fantasy community comically underrates Kupp, so in redraft you could still probably get Kupp+ for Jones, for whatever reason. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,809 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 30 minutes ago, ajs723 said: I don't think what I said is even hot-takey. Kupp is 4 years younger than Jones and putting up similar numbers. I think trading Kupp straight up for Jones in a dynasty league is an awful idea. For redraft, I think it's a fair trade. Again, one guy is going on 32 with a bum hamstring, and the other is right in his prime. There's a chance Julio isn't right much of this season and is already starting to fall off. He's a guy who wins with freakish athleticism, and those types usually don't age well. Of course, the fantasy community comically underrates Kupp, so in redraft you could still probably get Kupp+ for Jones, for whatever reason. Keep digging that hole deeper bud. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,196 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said: Keep digging that hole deeper bud. By all means, take the older, declining WR who, by the way, put up worse numbers last year. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dboy94 36 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, ajs723 said: By all means, take the older, declining WR who, by the way, put up worse numbers last year. Soooo Kupp or Edelman this week? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,196 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dboy94 said: Soooo Kupp or Edelman this week? Kupp always has a better chance to score, but I'd like to play both in a PPR league, if possible, haha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dboy94 36 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, ajs723 said: Kupp always has a better chance to score, but I'd like to play both in a PPR league, if possible, haha. Godwin, Kupp, Parker are my starters. Drake is my RB2, Conner my flex, Edelman and Hollywood on bench... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,196 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Dboy94 said: Godwin, Kupp, Parker are my starters. Drake is my RB2, Conner my flex, Edelman and Hollywood on bench... PPR? I'd probably go Godwin, Kupp, Edelman. If it's standard, you probably have it right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smeeze 6,086 Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dboy94 said: Godwin, Kupp, Parker are my starters. Drake is my RB2, Conner my flex, Edelman and Hollywood on bench... Be sure to keep us updated on any and all transactions you make 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyman75 4,849 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Bastardo! said: Outscored Julio in my standard league last year and had three times as many touchdowns as Julio in the second half last year, yet the excuses for Julio never end and the consensus on Kupp is that he's done. Interesting. That's because Julio has finished in the top 5 for how many consecutive years now? This agenda of yours against Julio is one of the dumbest things I've ever see on this forum...and that's saying a lot. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bastardo! 1,475 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Flyman75 said: That's because Julio has finished in the top 5 for how many consecutive years now? This agenda of yours against Julio is one of the dumbest things I've ever see on this forum...and that's saying a lot. I expect greatness from my players. If that's "dumb" to you, then fine. You go ahead and keep accepting mediocre while I am pushing my players to greater heights. You really think Randy's 2007 season happens if I'm not there demanding that he be better? Maybe I should have just patted him on the back after six touchdowns that season and said, "You know what, buddy, you're in the top five-- that's good enough." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,809 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, ajs723 said: By all means, take the older, declining WR who, by the way, put up worse numbers last year. Let me spell this out for you--you just typed that Cooper Kupp is better than Julio Jones. Thus proving your analysis and opinion are worthless. You are dismissed. Edited September 25, 2020 by SharkSwimmer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,196 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said: Let me spell this out for you--you just typed that Cooper Kupp is better than Julio Jones. Thus proving your analysis and opinion are worthless. You are dismissed. I said I'd take Kupp over Julio in dynasty. I'm honestly not sure that isn't the consensus. Googled rankings and some have Julio higher, some have Kupp higher. Generally, they're within a spot or two of each other. As for redraft, yes I'm higher on Kupp than most. I think with Julio's age and injury, his floor is problematic. If you'd prefer Julio, that's fine. For me, it's very close. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foppatosakic 184 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) Will officially be worried if he doesn't have a good game this weekend Edited September 25, 2020 by Foppatosakic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,076 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, Foppatosakic said: Will officially be worried if he doesn't have a good game this weekend He’s gonna balllllllll out. Double digit catches and finds the end zone. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,196 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ryansm11 said: He’s gonna balllllllll out. Double digit catches and finds the end zone. I'm thinking 7 for 115 and 2 TDs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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