GreatestShowonTurf 82 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 56 minutes ago, FinsUp24 said: It’s one thing to be stupid. Another thing to play a fossil in front of two talented RBs that you’ve invested significant draft capital in. These two do absolutely overlap and they’re both right in Patricia’s wheelhouse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hangin n wangin 1,703 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 As an owner of this guy I have no clue how I feel about him. But I sense utter disappointment coming. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIGFATPANDA 426 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Please just rest up n come back by week 4 And take the league over like AK 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeremyt7 101 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, FinsUp24 said: It’s one thing to be stupid. Another thing to play a fossil in front of two talented RBs that you’ve invested significant draft capital in. Swift working his way back from injury, Scarborough is injured, and Johnson is injury prone and rocking a knee brace the size of Texas. This signing was just insurance. Maybe he has a role for the first couple of weeks while Swift ramps up, but not beyond that. lmfao knee brace the size of Texas had my dying! Good one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FinsUp24 519 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Looks like our boy returned to a full practice today. No injury designation heading into week 1. Going to be unstartable for the first few weeks, but should take over before long. Really excited to see how this season unfolds for him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevieStats 3,704 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, FinsUp24 said: Looks like our boy returned to a full practice today. No injury designation heading into week 1. Going to be unstartable for the first few weeks, but should take over before long. Really excited to see how this season unfolds for him. Unstartable? He's got no injury designation (managing workload leading up to season?) And his competition for carries is a guy that is a change of pace back (Johnson) who needs a light workload, and a guy signed a week ago (AD) who doesn't know the playbook yet... Their star WR (Galloday) is out too... Obviously this depends on the depth of your league but you shouldn't be shy about firing him up IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoCan Sam 293 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, StevieStats said: Unstartable? He's got no injury designation (managing workload leading up to season?) And his competition for carries is a guy that is a change of pace back (Johnson) who needs a light workload, and a guy signed a week ago (AD) who doesn't know the playbook yet... Their star WR (Galloday) is out too... Obviously this depends on the depth of your league but you shouldn't be shy about firing him up IMO. AP is going to be used on early downs in pretty straightforward play calls. He is definitely going to be used. All 3 are unstartable this week due to lack of clarity on their snap counts. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevieStats 3,704 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, TwoCan Sam said: AP is going to be used on early downs in pretty straightforward play calls. He is definitely going to be used. All 3 are unstartable this week due to lack of clarity on their snap counts. Lmao do you listen to yourself? You said unstartable due to unclarity of snap counts right after stating APs usage as a matter of fact. What? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoCan Sam 293 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Just now, StevieStats said: Lmao do you listen to yourself? You said unstartable due to unclarity of snap counts right after stating APs usage as a matter of fact. What? I’m saying HOW AP is going to be used. I didn’t state he would be on the field for 60% of the snap counts because Johnson will be used on early down runs as well. And obviously game script decides if they stick with the downhill power run game or abandon it. There is absolutely no clarity currently on how much each RB will be on the field. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevieStats 3,704 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Just now, TwoCan Sam said: I’m saying HOW AP is going to be used. I didn’t state he would be on the field for 60% of the snap counts because Johnson will be used on early down runs as well. And obviously game script decides if they stick with the downhill power run game or abandon it. There is absolutely no clarity currently on how much each RB will be on the field. How do you know this? Do you have a source? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoCan Sam 293 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Just now, StevieStats said: How do you know this? Do you have a source? Because no one signs AP to be involved in the passing game. He is a proven commodity on early/GL/short yardage downs used to supplement the other back on their roster who is involved on early down running plays. Johnson has recent injury concerns therefore they will want to preserve him so he will not breakdown immediately. Swift missed a ton of training camp and practice due to injury therefore they will ease him back until he proves he can handle more work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevieStats 3,704 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TwoCan Sam said: Because no one signs AP to be involved in the passing game. He is a proven commodity on early/GL/short yardage downs used to supplement the other back on their roster who is involved on early down running plays. Johnson has recent injury concerns therefore they will want to preserve him so he will not breakdown immediately. Swift missed a ton of training camp and practice due to injury therefore they will ease him back until he proves he can handle more work. I get that opinion looking long term, but he's been on the team 1 week and doesn't even knowthe playbook. So did you have any source for his week 1 usage you were stating? Edited September 11, 2020 by StevieStats Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoCan Sam 293 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, StevieStats said: I get that opinion looking term, but he's been on the team 1 week and doesn't even knowthe playbook. So did you have any source for his week 1 usage you were stating? As I mentioned previously no one can predict the snap counts for week 1. In a neutral game script I would expect to see all 3 RBs involved in some fashion. Therefore like Patriots RBs it’s very hard to dictate output so that’s why I stated Lions RBs were unstartable this week. Edited September 11, 2020 by TwoCan Sam Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kdko 1,152 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, StevieStats said: I get that opinion looking long term, but he's been on the team 1 week and doesn't even knowthe playbook. So did you have any source for his week 1 usage you were stating? Doesn't know the playbook? You mean he doesn't know how to run a dive or draw after being a premiere back in the league 10 years? 😆 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
owenmills 5,326 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, StevieStats said: Lmao do you listen to yourself? You said unstartable due to unclarity of snap counts right after stating APs usage as a matter of fact. What? You’re delusional if you think Swift isn’t a super risky start. Only those in deep leagues with weak options should consider him. He’s been banged up, and it was already an unknown how touches between him and KJ would be split, then they add AP to the mix 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevieStats 3,704 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 56 minutes ago, owenmills said: You’re delusional if you think Swift isn’t a super risky start. Only those in deep leagues with weak options should consider him. He’s been banged up, and it was already an unknown how touches between him and KJ would be split, then they add AP to the mix Strawman... At what point did i say low risk? I said he's certainly an option depending depth of league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SadFaceHappy 2,049 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 57 minutes ago, owenmills said: You’re delusional if you think Swift isn’t a super risky start. Only those in deep leagues with weak options should consider him. He’s been banged up, and it was already an unknown how touches between him and KJ would be split, then they add AP to the mix KJ, I think, actually is startable. As startable as he will be at any point this year. If i had to bet my life on a distribution of carries, I'd probably go with 60/20/20 KJ/AP/Swift. All the grumblings from the coaching staff the past couple weeks sound very critical of the time missed by Swift because of his injury. Lots of "we'll see"s and "missing valuable time" type stuff. He's a rookie. AP is a vet. I don't think they'll hesitate to use him in rushing situations, even though he just got there. But overall I expect they'll lean on KJ, who's a very good running back when he's not hurt. Swift will be worked in eventually, maybe take over primary duties at some point, but no way can he be started this week. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MJJ28 1,124 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Swift is going to eat this Sunday. His practice absences were precautionary due to Kerryon and Scarbrough’s injuries. AP was signed because after Scarbrough was IR’d, they had no other RBs. Swift will be featured in the passing game and share early down work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyman75 4,854 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, MJJ28 said: Swift is going to eat this Sunday. His practice absences were precautionary due to Kerryon and Scarbrough’s injuries. AP was signed because after Scarbrough was IR’d, they had no other RBs. Swift will be featured in the passing game and share early down work. I don’t believe a team holds a rookie that has no summer, partial camp, and no preseason out of practice because it’s worried about him getting hurt. A rookie needs all the work and practice he can get. Edited September 12, 2020 by Flyman75 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoCan Sam 293 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Flyman75 said: I don’t believe a team holds a rookie that has no summer, partial camp, and no preseason out of practice because you’re worried about him getting hurt. A rookie needs all the work and practice he can get. This. Patricia even commented on how Swift was behind due to the lack of practice time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevieStats 3,704 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, TwoCan Sam said: This. Patricia even commented on how Swift was behind due to the lack of practice time. You mean the guy that learned everything from Belichick and not letting your opponents know any information? Oh yeah I'm sure he's 100% honest and letting everyone know the plan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoCan Sam 293 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, StevieStats said: You mean the guy that learned everything from Belichick and not letting your opponents know any information? Oh yeah I'm sure he's 100% honest and letting everyone know the plan. If a rookie isn’t practicing for an extended time and has yet to play an NFL snap due to no preseason games I don’t think there’s much “smoke screening” going on with Patricia’s comments regarding his status Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Honolulu Blue Balls 37 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I'm a Lions slappy, and I drafted Swift and KJ as my 4th and 5th RB's in an 8 man just for fun. Seasoned Lions fans expect worst case scenarios every season, so I entirely expect injury to lead to less of a timeshare as the season progresses. Assuming good health for all RB's, I would expect Swift to get the bulk of the carries eventually this year. He has the youth/talent combo the other guys don't. Regardless, I'm holding them on my bench until we get an idea of how this all shakes out. I personally wouldn't start any Lions RB against the Bears. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevieStats 3,704 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 19 hours ago, TwoCan Sam said: If a rookie isn’t practicing for an extended time and has yet to play an NFL snap due to no preseason games I don’t think there’s much “smoke screening” going on with Patricia’s comments regarding his status He was out 2 weeks at the end of camp... And he's off the injury report for the game... I wouldn't call that an extended absence... If he played the 1st 2 preseason games then missed the 3rd and 4th but was off the injury report for week 1 I doubt people would be calling him unstartable. I get the caution, as there should be... But he's certainly an option... And no one has presented any sources for snaps only their own assumptions. Making roster decisions based off forum speculation isn't a great recipe for success. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SadFaceHappy 2,049 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, StevieStats said: He was out 2 weeks at the end of camp... And he's off the injury report for the game... I wouldn't call that an extended absence... If he played the 1st 2 preseason games then missed the 3rd and 4th but was off the injury report for week 1 I doubt people would be calling him unstartable. I get the caution, as there should be... But he's certainly an option... And no one has presented any sources for snaps only their own assumptions. Making roster decisions based off forum speculation isn't a great recipe for success. Just read the coaches' take on him. If you want to start him feel free, but I'd advise much caution Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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