Gootz 131 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 58 minutes ago, harck said: Can't speak enough about how much of an absolute fantasy stud Herbert is and will be. Next year should be a top priority when drafting a QB. They just faced an absolutely lethal Miami Defense and he still put up 21 points (which now looks like his floor), and on top of that, his coaching staff is actively holding him back with garbage like this: Really hope the Chargers clean up this off-season. You have what appears to be one of the best rookie QB prospects of all time playing like he's been in the league for 5 years already, and you just hamstring him with terrible playcalling. I'd be upset if I were Keenan Allen right now too, looking at how the Packers scheme for Davante Adams, particularly in the redzone. These are the kinds of posts that bring me back to the forum. Quality post, thank you. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoppychokes 840 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Can you imagine when JH has a healthy Ekeler out there as well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ninersdd 334 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, harck said: Can't speak enough about how much of an absolute fantasy stud Herbert is and will be. Next year should be a top priority when drafting a QB. They just faced an absolutely lethal Miami Defense and he still put up 21 points (which now looks like his floor), and on top of that, his coaching staff is actively holding him back with garbage like this: Really hope the Chargers clean up this off-season. You have what appears to be one of the best rookie QB prospects of all time playing like he's been in the league for 5 years already, and you just hamstring him with terrible playcalling. I'd be upset if I were Keenan Allen right now too, looking at how the Packers scheme for Davante Adams, particularly in the redzone. It would be stupid especially this week to run it on the Jets more, since run defense is the only thing they are decent at. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PisEdiRin 453 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, harck said: Can't speak enough about how much of an absolute fantasy stud Herbert is and will be. Next year should be a top priority when drafting a QB. They just faced an absolutely lethal Miami Defense and he still put up 21 points (which now looks like his floor), and on top of that, his coaching staff is actively holding him back with garbage like this: Really hope the Chargers clean up this off-season. You have what appears to be one of the best rookie QB prospects of all time playing like he's been in the league for 5 years already, and you just hamstring him with terrible playcalling. I'd be upset if I were Keenan Allen right now too, looking at how the Packers scheme for Davante Adams, particularly in the redzone. Herbert has a 1-7 Record as a Starter. That's pathetic. QBs are measured by Wins and Losses. Herbert has yet to prove that he can WIN. Edited November 20, 2020 by PisEdiRin 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kyoun1e 1,050 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, PisEdiRin said: Herbert has a 1-7 Record as a Starter. That's pathetic. QBs are measured by Wins and Losses. Herbert has yet to prove that he can WIN. You see there's this concept called "team." The team wins and loses, not the QB. Especially when the D is terrible. What more did you want him to do last week to win? Throw it to himself in the endzone and catch it? And then put a ref jersey on and make the right call? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kretan182 527 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, PisEdiRin said: Herbert has a 1-7 Record as a Starter. That's pathetic. QBs are measured by Wins and Losses. Herbert has yet to prove that he can WIN. irrelevant in the fantasy world as long he is the starter and producing big numbers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gryfter 1,038 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, PisEdiRin said: Herbert has a 1-7 Record as a Starter. That's pathetic. QBs are measured by Wins and Losses. Herbert has yet to prove that he can WIN. Really now... The game we're all playing, the reason why we're all here and the reason why this forum exists is FANTASY FOOTBALL. Going by your logic, Trent Dilfer shouldve been a top 10, heck top 5 QB back in 2000. 1 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kyoun1e 1,050 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gryfter said: Really now... The game we're all playing, the reason why we're all here and the reason why this forum exists is FANTASY FOOTBALL. Going by your logic, Trent Dilfer shouldve been a top 10, heck top 5 QB back in 2000. Exactly. Anyone with eyeballs in their head can see this guy is legit. LAC hit a homerun here. Now they just need to build around him. And having a crappy record now will be a blessing in disguise. They'll get a high pick next year. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PisEdiRin 453 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, kyoun1e said: You see there's this concept called "team." The team wins and loses, not the QB. Especially when the D is terrible. What more did you want him to do last week to win? Throw it to himself in the endzone and catch it? And then put a ref jersey on and make the right call? 10 minutes ago, kyoun1e said: Exactly. Anyone with eyeballs in their head can see this guy is legit. LAC hit a homerun here. Now they just need to build around him. And having a crappy record now will be a blessing in disguise. They'll get a high pick next year. 1 and 7. Gotta win. Sorry. All the great QBs have 1 thing in common: They all WIN. Edited November 20, 2020 by PisEdiRin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yanksman 3,781 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, PisEdiRin said: 1 and 7. Gotta win. Sorry. All the great QBs have 1 thing in common: They all WIN. Peyton Manning 3-13 his rookie year Rookie QBs generally don't win because the teams picked them with a high pick the year before meaning they sucked. Edited November 20, 2020 by yanksman 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yanksman 3,781 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Troy Aikman 0-11 his rookie year 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kyoun1e 1,050 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Not worth debating. Worst take ever. 5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Illusion_J 151 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, yanksman said: Peyton Manning 3-13 his rookie year Rookie QBs generally don't win because the teams picked them with a high pick the year before meaning they sucked. Impressive thing about Herbert is losing by 8 to Miami is his worst loss so far. His games seem to be either he gets the Chargers out to a big lead and the coaching staff blows it by digging into the Marty Schottenheimer how to hold a lead playbook, or he's put up enough points to give his team a shot to win at the end. Fingers crossed short hair Herbert is as good as long hair Herbert 🤞 Best part...5 of his next 6 games are in a dome. Don't have to worry about winter weather messing up your QB in the fantasy playoffs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PisEdiRin 453 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, kyoun1e said: Not worth debating. Worst take ever. Win. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JAG_challam 232 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 13 hours ago, Illusion_J said: Fingers crossed short hair Herbert is as good as long hair Herbert 🤞 Well played sir. Well played. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ludawg23 1,982 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Justin Herbert: career high 355 passing yards Sunday Kalen Ballage: 4 rushing tds 😄 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PisEdiRin 453 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 17 hours ago, yanksman said: Troy Aikman 0-11 his rookie year Troy Aikman is one of the most overrated QBs of all time. He's one of the worst players in the Hall of Fame. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soafanforlife 430 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 20 hours ago, PisEdiRin said: Herbert has a 1-7 Record as a Starter. That's pathetic. QBs are measured by Wins and Losses. Herbert has yet to prove that he can WIN. Ahh yes, the nod of approval from Pisedirin. You know what this means boys: league winner here on out. Pis, care to give us what your opinion of Dalvin Cook is, and what you think the lack of "receiving weapons" in Minny would mean for his fantasy value? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fried Pork Grind 524 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 11/20/2020 at 2:05 PM, PisEdiRin said: 1 and 7. Gotta win. Sorry. All the great QBs have 1 thing in common: They all WIN. We need a dislike emoji. Watch the game and talk to us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fried Pork Grind 524 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Trade value is a great was to evaluate young talent in all sports. Herberts trade value is absolutely elite by all measures. Chargers could realistically get more then 3 firsts for him to even have a discussion. If you think the teams record is a reflection of Herbert then my 6 year old knows more about football then you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gootz 131 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 11/20/2020 at 1:45 PM, Gryfter said: Really now... The game we're all playing, the reason why we're all here and the reason why this forum exists is FANTASY FOOTBALL. Going by your logic, Trent Dilfer shouldve been a top 10, heck top 5 QB back in 2000. Adds Dilfer to watch list... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rv23 2 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 going for the ballage and herbert stack today. lets hope the jets dont hang tough Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fried Pork Grind 524 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 He is so impressive, fearless and smart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breesus 482 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Herbert Ekeler stack may be the #1 stack in the fantasy playoffs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PizzaBeerFF 711 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Amazing. When I saw a young QB put numbers up like this and struggle for wins... he became a HOF. Peyton had a first season resembling Herberts. Now, I don’t want get cart before horse... but I also can’t turn blind eye this kid is a horse. 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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