midlip 479 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Is it nitpicking that he only gets 4 catches a game? I worry if his efficiency ever dies down if he'll have a dud Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevieStats 3,704 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, midlip said: Is it nitpicking that he only gets 4 catches a game? I worry if his efficiency ever dies down if he'll have a dud I was also wondering if this is time to sell high? He's had a cream puff schedule and has a very difficult schedule after the week 6 bye... 4 catches per game vs terrible opponents? He's only catching 57% with the most efficient QB in the league.... Locket is 33 tgt 79%, Olsen 18 tgt 78%, Carson 16 tgt 94%, Moore 11 tgt 91%... Then you got DK with 28 tgt and 57%... The Seahawks putside of DK real in 84% of their targets and he's at 57%, but he does far more with the ball in his hands than any other... is that 25 yards per catch sustainable? Love the talent but we due for regression? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cheezor42 534 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, StevieStats said: I was also wondering if this is time to sell high? He's had a cream puff schedule and has a very difficult schedule after the week 6 bye... 4 catches per game vs terrible opponents? He's only catching 57% with the most efficient QB in the league.... Locket is 33 tgt 79%, Olsen 18 tgt 78%, Carson 16 tgt 94%, Moore 11 tgt 91%... Then you got DK with 28 tgt and 57%... The Seahawks putside of DK real in 84% of their targets and he's at 57%, but he does far more with the ball in his hands than any other... is that 25 yards per catch sustainable? Love the talent but we due for regression? classic example of why looking at stats in a bubble without context will f--- you. Do not sell this beast. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harck 478 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) He's still a top 10 fantasy overall this year no question, but yes, you have to expect a couple dud games because he's a deep threat with fewer targets than a short/intermediate receiver or a slot guy. His consistency for a deep threat has been amazing though, and Seattle hasn't showed any signs of slowing down their offense/passing, so... If you're in PPR though, maybe try to flip him for a keenan allen or amari cooper. In standard or half ppr though? Hold all season. Edited October 8, 2020 by harck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dreams And Dwightmares 3,229 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, harck said: He's still a top 10 fantasy overall this year no question, but yes, you have to expect a couple dud games because he's a deep threat with fewer targets than a short/intermediate receiver or a slot guy. His consistency for a deep threat has been amazing though, and Seattle hasn't showed any signs of slowing down their offense/passing, so... If you're in PPR though, maybe try to flip him for a keenan allen or amari cooper. In standard or half ppr though? Hold all season. If Tyrod takes back over you lose that Allen trade 99 / 100 times. The 1 being DK gets hurt and Allen plays 16. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EaglesRocker97 210 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, midlip said: Is it nitpicking that he only gets 4 catches a game? I worry if his efficiency ever dies down if he'll have a dud Everyone has duds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AngryBeavers 130 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 They are throwing for more airyards to him ( I would have to look that up to verify that but I think I am right) to it only makes sense the completion % goes down the farther downfield the ball is traveling........ Tough schedule or not, the man is freak - who is going to cover him consistently? No one!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gohawks 9,990 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, midlip said: Is it nitpicking that he only gets 4 catches a game? I worry if his efficiency ever dies down if he'll have a dud Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gohawks 9,990 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) On a serious note is it a worry? No. I've stated multiple times that he is not ready yet to be a target hog and the go to guy in desperate situations that require a first down. Too many flaws still to be reliable in those situations. Look at some other freaks and when they hit 100 receptions: Julio - Season 4 Megatron - Season 6 Dez - Never Andre Johnson - Season 4 Mike Evans - Never Moss - Season 5 Owens - Season 7 It takes time. Sure DK is going to have some duds like a lot of these guys did. However, his elite deep ball skills will give him a lot more 100 yard and 1 TD games than most players. It evens out in the end. Even Dez was known to dissapear for halfs and Evans has terrible games. Hell, the legendary Megatron would put up 4/40/0 games 3-4 times a year. Edited October 8, 2020 by Gohawks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dreams And Dwightmares 3,229 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, Dreams And Dwightmares said: If Tyrod takes back over you lose that Allen trade 99 / 100 times. The 1 being DK gets hurt and Allen plays 16. lol. Maybe it's like 50/100 times now. I really didn't see Herbert keeping the job, he's been very mediocre IMO and could use more grooming, but whatever. Chargers offensive skill positions are full go rest of the season. It's such BS every time I discount an offense heading into a season and then a team doctor punctures the lung of the guy that throws for crap yardage whenever he plays loses his job to a guy that is a gunslinger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FavreCo 408 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 hours ago, StevieStats said: I was also wondering if this is time to sell high? He's had a cream puff schedule and has a very difficult schedule after the week 6 bye... 4 catches per game vs terrible opponents? He's only catching 57% with the most efficient QB in the league.... Locket is 33 tgt 79%, Olsen 18 tgt 78%, Carson 16 tgt 94%, Moore 11 tgt 91%... Then you got DK with 28 tgt and 57%... The Seahawks putside of DK real in 84% of their targets and he's at 57%, but he does far more with the ball in his hands than any other... is that 25 yards per catch sustainable? Love the talent but we due for regression? He torched one of the best CBs in the league. He's matchup proof. One of the few guys I've ever had where it doesn't matter who they are playing, he's in the starting lineup outside of a Philly-Detroit blizzard like game from years back.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FavreCo 408 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Gohawks said: On a serious note is it a worry? No. I've stated multiple times that he is not ready yet to be a target hog and the go to guy in desperate situations that require a first down. Too many flaws still to be reliable in those situations. Look at some other freaks and when they hit 100 receptions: Julio - Season 4 Megatron - Season 6 Dez - Never Andre Johnson - Season 4 Mike Evans - Never Moss - Season 5 Owens - Season 7 It takes time. Sure DK is going to have some duds like a lot of these guys did. However, his elite deep ball skills will give him a lot more 100 yard and 1 TD games than most players. It evens out in the end. Even Dez was known to dissapear for halfs and Evans has terrible games. Hell, the legendary Megatron would put up 4/40/0 games 3-4 times a year. Megatron was known to go catchless in the 1st halves of games a lot. Trust me I had him and that coward coaching staff would play with their balls tucked up in their vaginas for the 1st half and only throw when the other team had taken a 2 TD lead on them into the 4th Q. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevieStats 3,704 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, FavreCo said: He torched one of the best CBs in the league. He's matchup proof. One of the few guys I've ever had where it doesn't matter who they are playing, he's in the starting lineup outside of a Philly-Detroit blizzard like game from years back.. In case you didn't know, that corner is only 1 of 11 players... And 4 catches isn't exactly "torching" although he had a great fantasy game... New England gives up the 9th most points to WRs... His other opponents did far give up the 10th most (atl), 2nd most (dal), and 8th most (mia)... Pass rush and defensive scheming make a huge impact -- DK has had a cream puff easy schedule no two ways about it, impossible to call him matchup proof. After this Minnesota (4th most to WR) he doesn't face a single top 10 matchup the test of the way... In fact after the bye the defenses vs WR rank as follows (1=give up most, 32=least): 29, 27, 11, 28, 29, 14, 13, 22, 31, 28... Not saying he's going to fail but the schedule gets a LOT more difficult for a guy that hasn't faced a stingy defense vs WRs. Edited October 8, 2020 by StevieStats Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cheezor42 534 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, StevieStats said: In case you didn't know, that corner is only 1 of 11 players... And 4 catches isn't exactly "torching" although he had a great fantasy game... New England gives up the 9th most points to WRs... His other opponents did far give up the 10th most (atl), 2nd most (dal), and 8th most (mia)... Pass rush and defensive scheming make a huge impact -- DK has had a cream puff easy schedule no two ways about it, impossible to call him matchup proof. After this Minnesota (4th most to WR) he doesn't face a single top 10 matchup the test of the way... In fact after the bye the defenses vs WR rank as follows (1=give up most, 32=least): 29, 27, 11, 28, 29, 14, 13, 22, 31, 28... Not saying he's going to fail but the schedule gets a LOT more difficult for a guy that hasn't faced a stingy defense vs WRs. those defenses stats will be takin a dip after Russ and DK blow through town. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AngryBeavers 130 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 13 hours ago, StevieStats said: In case you didn't know, that corner is only 1 of 11 players... And 4 catches isn't exactly "torching" although he had a great fantasy game... New England gives up the 9th most points to WRs... His other opponents did far give up the 10th most (atl), 2nd most (dal), and 8th most (mia)... Pass rush and defensive scheming make a huge impact -- DK has had a cream puff easy schedule no two ways about it, impossible to call him matchup proof. After this Minnesota (4th most to WR) he doesn't face a single top 10 matchup the test of the way... In fact after the bye the defenses vs WR rank as follows (1=give up most, 32=least): 29, 27, 11, 28, 29, 14, 13, 22, 31, 28... Not saying he's going to fail but the schedule gets a LOT more difficult for a guy that hasn't faced a stingy defense vs WRs. so only 1 team in the top 3? and that 29 and 28...will be like 15 after Russ and DK get them done with them the 1st time around........ Let's put it another way... The Cardinals x2, SF x2, Buffalo, LA x2, Philly, NYG, NYJ, Washington does not look like murderer's row of pass defenses. In fact, quite the opposite...... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gohawks 9,990 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 What’s good? 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cheezor42 534 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just here to pay my respects 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blats 34 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Dude is a stud. I got to see him play at Ole Miss while my girlfriend went there. Everybody loved this guy since he was a native to the area. Still shook he fell in the draft. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oresteszero 1,553 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tghetty 355 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Wr #1 Russ and this guy is trending BIG up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guwop 802 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 lots of crow will be eaten after the next couple of weeks go by. Dude looked every bit of a surefire WR1. Don't have him but that was a good a** game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joebaker23 184 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 WRs taken over him in '19 draft. What did teams not see? Don't understand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kraftwrk_5 656 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Beast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RustyMiller 1,247 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Both him and Russ have that clutch gene. Game on the line you know where Russ is looking and it's not #16. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LionKid90 426 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Next year he likely a late first or early second round pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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