elpursuit 35 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I am not giving up on James White just yet in PPR leagues. I don't know what the hell happened last week but it's clear the Pats Offense will have to rely on YAC yards for the rest of the season because they have nothing there downfield and White is easily the "shiftiest" player left on the roster now that Edelman is washed. Another game like last weekend though and he's done, but I think he will get his 6 to 8 catches like he usually does in competitive games. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mar111kle 37 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Fortuitously we have some history of White vs Buffalo: 1. In his Career he is avg 50 total yards 5 catches and .5 TD's...In PPR that is 13 PPR points... 2. In 2019 he averaged 45 yards and 6 receptions. No Td's. Avg PPR 10.5 PPR points With the bye's hammering me on week 9 I am taking this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dudewithabadcat 1,078 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, elpursuit said: I am not giving up on James White just yet in PPR leagues. I don't know what the hell happened last week but it's clear the Pats Offense will have to rely on YAC yards for the rest of the season because they have nothing there downfield and White is easily the "shiftiest" player left on the roster now that Edelman is washed. Another game like last weekend though and he's done, but I think he will get his 6 to 8 catches like he usually does in competitive games. I think Cam said it himself "he pushed too [hard]". I don't think Cam is making the easy plays with his arm or his legs. For the love of god, I don't know why Cam didn't just run more last week. "Cam here is the thing...shh....BB doesn't give a **** if your shoulder pops out and you miss the rest of the season. Next man up is Stidham and the kid is the heir to the throne...shh..." Anyways. Part of keeping it simple is giving the ball to White instead of pressing down the field trying to force throws to Byrd, Harry, and Edelman. I'm a bit irritated that this TE situation is not panning out with the Pats too. All of this weighs on the value of White. White does not stop the bleeding on this offense. It is that Plan B when the defense finally figures out how to stop you when you are rolling. Pats aren't rolling. I'm holding White but I am skurred. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin1984 563 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, dudewithabadcat said: All of this weighs on the value of White. White does not stop the bleeding on this offense. It is that Plan B when the defense finally figures out how to stop you when you are rolling. Pats aren't rolling. I'm holding White but I am skurred. It all depends on what you are missing out on by holding him and how shallow the league is. For the most part he's been in the ballpark of what he usually is. I don't see how he's too much different then he was coming into the year and I would imagine most people that draft him know what kind of player he is and that he is entirely a scoring format specific player. He was coming off the board between the 7th-10th rounds after all. I think the only people hurting here are the ones that went zero RB expecting slam dunk top 15 weekly PPR production from him. They were asking for it anyway this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dudewithabadcat 1,078 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 17 hours ago, Benjamin1984 said: It all depends on what you are missing out on by holding him and how shallow the league is. For the most part he's been in the ballpark of what he usually is. I don't see how he's too much different then he was coming into the year and I would imagine most people that draft him know what kind of player he is and that he is entirely a scoring format specific player. He was coming off the board between the 7th-10th rounds after all. I think the only people hurting here are the ones that went zero RB expecting slam dunk top 15 weekly PPR production from him. They were asking for it anyway this year. he has totaled maybe 7 points over the last two weeks. That is not James White numbers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,145 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, dudewithabadcat said: he has totaled maybe 7 points over the last two weeks. That is not James White numbers. He’s totaled almost 17 points in the last two weeks in full PPR - if you’re talking about standard leagues, I have no idea why he’d be rostered to begin with. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NativeTheory 10 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) How do people feel about him this week? [...] Thought he had a good floor but last week proved that wrong. Edited October 31, 2020 by tonycpsu Removed Assistant Coach content Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Evilbooyaa 175 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I am dropping after a 5.5 point showing in a full PPR league after his clunker 2 weeks ago. Should be a Harris game against Jets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CooL 3,248 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think this guy is droppable. Only 21 snaps last week, five targets. Burkhead being the multitool has had a stead 42-48% snap share in the last 3 games. If we can't count on White to be in on all the third downs, then he's useless. Once again, it proves that owning a Pats RB is never a solid bet. Sure, it might be a "White game" and he'll get 50% snap share, the team will be blown out, and finally Newton might dump off like he used to when he had CMC. But when does that happen? When can you count on it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fletch44 1,520 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, CooL said: I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think this guy is droppable. Only 21 snaps last week, five targets. Burkhead being the multitool has had a stead 42-48% snap share in the last 3 games. If we can't count on White to be in on all the third downs, then he's useless. Once again, it proves that owning a Pats RB is never a solid bet. Sure, it might be a "White game" and he'll get 50% snap share, the team will be blown out, and finally Newton might dump off like he used to when he had CMC. But when does that happen? When can you count on it? I dropped him this week for all the reasons you've mentioned.. He had 6 touches the whole game and 3 of them came on the final drive with 40 seconds left. This is becoming the norm rather than the exception. Like you said, he probably has a couple decent games in him ROS but I but I just can't see him being useful with any consistency when he's getting 4-10 touches a game in a mediocre offense. Edited November 13, 2020 by fletch44 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,080 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Just picked this stud up. Totally expecting a turnaround, cause I need it lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flint55 30 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Ryansm11 said: Just picked this stud up. Totally expecting a turnaround, cause I need it lol. Wishful thinking. We all need it but don't expect a miracle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Evilbooyaa 175 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Just now, Ryansm11 said: Just picked this stud up. Totally expecting a turnaround, cause I need it lol. Even in the wasteland known as RB waiver wire, there are better options out there than this guy. Best of luck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,080 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Burkhead done for the year? White came in and instantly took over the receiving role again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YK35 52 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Interesting add for RB needy teams if Burkhead is out, especially in PPR formats of course. NE plays Arizona, Chargers, Rams, Dolphins, Bills. Most of those offenses can put up points in a hurry, so White becomes useful. You can't expect Brady chemistry but he might become a sneaky good RB2/3 option. Edited November 23, 2020 by YK35 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brosephd 1,287 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) picked him up and hoping for mad dump offs from Cam. Hoping he can put up serviceable RB2 numbers with at least a safe floor of 10. .5 ppr starting over edmonds, gio bernard/perine Edited November 26, 2020 by brosephd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roughnecker101 133 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Smash start today or what? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alexcuse 36 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Shoot Sony Michel is active. Have concerns that Michel will get burkhead’s touches instead of white getting a much bigger role. Edited November 29, 2020 by alexcuse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roughnecker101 133 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, alexcuse said: Shoot Sony Michel is active. Have concerns that Michel will get burkhead’s touches instead of white getting a much bigger role. Sony and Harris have a combined 7 targets this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alexcuse 36 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, roughnecker101 said: Sony and Harris have a combined 7 targets this season. Sounds good enough for me, will pivot to start him over higher ranked options by experts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nn4mz 101 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 He did his job for me this week. Excellent. Wondering what he’ll do this week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MingusDew 407 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, nn4mz said: He did his job for me this week. Excellent. Wondering what he’ll do this week. All of his points came from 2 goal line carries. Caught a single pass all game. He needs negative game script. I'm definitely going to consider playing him against the Chargers and Rams - both should put up big points and both have solid defenses. Probably fade against Miami, though. That one will be close and low-scoring with many turnovers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fletch44 1,520 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 49 minutes ago, nn4mz said: He did his job for me this week. Excellent. Wondering what he’ll do this week. This is the problem and why I dropped him. For every good game, he gives you nothing for 3. Burkhead hurt probably help him a tad. But he's still too risky to start in most leagues IMO. He's gonna produce his floor which is next to nothing far more often than his ceiling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YK35 52 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 'James White Szn Is Here' https://www.rotoworld.com/article/target-decoder/james-white-szn-here 'Nearly 24 percent of targets against the Bolts have gone to running backs, the highest rate in the NFL. Backs facing the Chargers this season have seen an average of 7.88 targets per contest.' Are we buying into this? Solid RB2 start today? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,080 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 2 hours ago, YK35 said: 'James White Szn Is Here' https://www.rotoworld.com/article/target-decoder/james-white-szn-here 'Nearly 24 percent of targets against the Bolts have gone to running backs, the highest rate in the NFL. Backs facing the Chargers this season have seen an average of 7.88 targets per contest.' Are we buying into this? Solid RB2 start today? I have no choice. It’s him or Gallman, and white feels safer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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