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Dallas Goedert 2020 Outlook

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With the terrible offensive line play, does anyone think he will be used to block more often? Or are we looking at their #1 receiving option on short routes?

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2 hours ago, johnnyboy8102 said:

Does anyone else have a tough choice to make between him and Hurst?

 

Do you mean a tough choice to start or a tough choice to roster? Because I have the latter.

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Just spent 25% of my FAAB on this guy. LEETS GOOOOO!!!! 

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High enough on this guy that I spent a ton of FAAB on him so that I can flip Andrew. Guy's been a top 10 TE going back into the second half of 2019. No reason to expect that to change now given how bad the WR corps looks. 

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36 minutes ago, leffe186 said:

 

Do you mean a tough choice to start or a tough choice to roster? Because I have the latter.

To Roster. 
 

Hurst was on the field/ran a lot of routes so I am hesitant to jump ship. You’d think Ertz is going to be more involved going forward. 

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2 hours ago, egolam said:

It's not that crazy, Graham had a great volume in week 1 and was targeted a lot in the redzone. Goedert has a lot of competition with Ertz, I'm not saying I agree with him though, but I can understand why he thinks that way


Yeah i considered that. But you could also look at it and say graham got all that opportunity and turned it into 10 pts. Is he likely to get 8 targets (4 in the endzone) ever again?  He turned that into 10 pts. 

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14 minutes ago, johnnyboy8102 said:

To Roster. 
 

Hurst was on the field/ran a lot of routes so I am hesitant to jump ship. You’d think Ertz is going to be more involved going forward. 

I believe Hurst played on 78% of offensive snaps in week 1.  The argument is that he is battling for targets behind 3 WRs in Atlanta.  He has a favorable match-up against Dallas this week though.

I too am flipping between Hurst/Goedert and have not made a decision yet but it's certainly close.

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I was researching lots of Goedert information yesterday, while trying to determine my FAAB for him last night. Since Week 7 of the 2019 season, here are the regular season PPR numbers for the top 10 TE's within the period mentioned:

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That doesn't include the one postseason game either, where he had 7 catches for 73 yards (14.3 PPG).

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21 minutes ago, ludawg23 said:

I believe Hurst played on 78% of offensive snaps in week 1.  The argument is that he is battling for targets behind 3 WRs in Atlanta.  He has a favorable match-up against Dallas this week though.

I too am flipping between Hurst/Goedert and have not made a decision yet but it's certainly close.

Right there with you guys, and as much as I hate chasing points at the TE position, Goedert has already shown what he is capable of doing whereas Hurst is still living on "potential." I think I'm gonna side with the known quantity for a few weeks and see how it shakes out. In a shootout like this past Sunday I would have hoped for a lot more opportunity for Hurst.

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4 minutes ago, ludawg23 said:

I believe Hurst played on 78% of offensive snaps in week 1.  The argument is that he is battling for targets behind 3 WRs in Atlanta.  He has a favorable match-up against Dallas this week though.

I too am flipping between Hurst/Goedert and have not made a decision yet but it's certainly close.

 

I am super high on Goedert.   I watched him the second half of 19 and it became clear to me that he is as good/if not better than Ertz.   Wentz is locked in on his tight ends and they are pretty much 1A/1B right now.   I also feel there is a chance with the Eagles injuries Ertz could get traded.   Even if he does not get traded Goedert will give you a safer floor than most other tight ends.     

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2 hours ago, ludawg23 said:

I believe Hurst played on 78% of offensive snaps in week 1.  The argument is that he is battling for targets behind 3 WRs in Atlanta.  He has a favorable match-up against Dallas this week though.

I too am flipping between Hurst/Goedert and have not made a decision yet but it's certainly close.

 

Hurst on most weeks will be the #3 option . Gage is #4  

Don't look into Week 1 too much. 

But regardless Hurst or Goedert is a great problem to have. 

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Goedert is 1A to Ertz 1B.

 

Ertz/Goedert is the best WR tandem in the NFL.

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3 hours ago, Sivaro said:

Goedert is 1A to Ertz 1B.

 

Ertz/Goedert is the best WR tandem in the NFL.

Ahh there it is, one of these hottest takes I come to roto forums to find!

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5 minutes ago, daethfromabove1979 said:

It should also be noted that Ertz had a brutal/costly 4th quarter drop, hopefully we see more Goedert going forward.

 

he's a proven vet, not some green rookie. this will have 0 impact

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16 hours ago, Festivus said:

 

he's a proven vet, not some green rookie. this will have 0 impact

Agreed. Wentz trusts Ertz (see past three years of targets). If Ertz is open he'll get the ball as usual. Wentz isn't gonna see Ertz open and think "hmm he did drop one ball in a clutch situation recently maybe I should find my next read." I guess a drop could affect the way plays are called involving Ertz, but again don't think one drop changes anything.

Obviously fumbles affect carries, but I can't think of a time a proven receiver got demoted for even several drops let alone one.

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Ertz contract dispute, on the other hand, could potentially impact him negatively.  Goedert may be the heir apparent, although they are both on the field for the most part.

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Seems like 7pts is a safe floor we can expect for Goedert. I was expecting a little more in this one tho.Thoughts?

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1 minute ago, Tomei7 said:

Seems like 7pts is a safe floor we can expect for Goedert. I was expecting a little more in this one tho.Thoughts?


still got 8 targets, and more than Ertz.  Not going to blow up every game but should still be a top 10 option.  The tough thing for most who own him is picking between him or our other fringe TE1 starters each week. 

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1 hour ago, cheezor42 said:


still got 8 targets, and more than Ertz.  Not going to blow up every game but should still be a top 10 option.  The tough thing for most who own him is picking between him or our other fringe TE1 starters each week. 

Yeah I'm in that boat. I started him over Jonnu this week and it ended up costing me the win. The hard part with Goedert is it will be hard to predict when his good games will come. At least with other fringe TEs you can analyze matchups and usage a little bit better because you don't have the other variable factor of dealing with Ertz on a weekly basis. Unless Ertz gets traded, you just gotta be comfortable rolling the dice starting him and hope for the best. I think Sanders being healthy will also cap his ceiling a little bit with Sanders getting a lot of targets and goal line carries.

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2 hours ago, Tomei7 said:

Seems like 7pts is a safe floor we can expect for Goedert. I was expecting a little more in this one tho.Thoughts?

I'd agree that this was pretty much his floor. 

Also, he was WIDE open on a 15-20-yarder and Wentz flat out didn't see him. They connect there and we're talking about him being a top 5 TE this year. 

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2 hours ago, cheezor42 said:

The tough thing for most who own him is picking between him or our other fringe TE1 starters each week. 

SO this. I've got Higbee. They've each had one huge week and I've gone 0 for 2 in terms of who to start. Goedert was drafted so late most people are likely in that same boat. 

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6 minutes ago, BGDDYKWL said:

SO this. I've got Higbee. They've each had one huge week and I've gone 0 for 2 in terms of who to start. Goedert was drafted so late most people are likely in that same boat. 

Same, but I actually dropped Higbee for him and now that looks like a terrible move.  Happens every time you try to chase points it seems.  As long as he is getting targeted a lot and redzone looks I think we'll be fine.

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5 minutes ago, BGDDYKWL said:

SO this. I've got Higbee. They've each had one huge week and I've gone 0 for 2 in terms of who to start. Goedert was drafted so late most people are likely in that same boat. 


Yes I’d wager most Goedert owners also have one of Jonnu, Higbee, Gesicki, etc and probably a lot of them are pulling their hair out starting the wrong one each week.  In a few more weeks though these guys might start separating themselves a bit as to which are truly breakouts.

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