cdd10 1,193 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 7 hours ago, JCD said: Teams don't run on Miami for some reason. 25th-28th in rush attempt against. Only the BAL, IND, LAC, PIT, TB defense has seen less rush attempts / game. Opposing teams like SF and LAR padded their rush totals vs Miami when the game was out of hand, and Miami D defended the pass. Overall the Dolphins is the best defense in the league right now. So far only James Robinson and Chris Carson was able to put up good fantasy numbers vs the Fins D. Kyler Murray runs a lot. Overall Miami is #3 against the pass and dead last in the league vs the run according to football outsiders 🤷♂️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JCD 224 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 6 hours ago, cdd10 said: Overall Miami is #3 against the pass and dead last in the league vs the run according to football outsiders 🤷♂️ Miami is #1 overallhttps://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/opp.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cdd10 1,193 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 6 hours ago, JCD said: Miami is #1 overallhttps://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/opp.htm https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/team-defense/2020 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JCD 224 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, cdd10 said: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/team-defense/2020 And why would that mean more? Why would that be accurate? According to that, Miami D stopped the #1 LAR,and #6 SF Rush offense.https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/team-offense/2020 Yet, according to that list, with all those "advanced" metrics, they are dead last in Rush D? Interesting. Is it because they allowed #5 NE to run all over them in the 1st game, as they used 6 different players to rush including 75 yds and 2 TDs by the QB? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cdd10 1,193 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 minute ago, JCD said: And why would that mean more? Why would that be accurate? According to that, Miami D stopped the #1 LAR,and #6 SF Rush offense.https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/team-offense/2020 Yet, according to that list, with all those "advanced" metrics, they are dead last in Rush D? Interesting. Is it because they allowed #5 NE to run all over them in the 1st game, as they used 6 different players to rush including 75 yds and 2 TDs by the QB? Bro i'm just throwing out the numbers. They've gave up the 10th most rushing TD's and allow the 4th most Y/A rushing. I'm just saying I would hestitate to say they are #1 ranked RUSH DEF.No reason to get all upset. Every team has ran the ball well against the Dolphins when they do it. This is a smash spot for Edmonds imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ColoWrex 1,951 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Sooo.... didn't look any better than Drake in Drake's role. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LooseLeaf 91 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 With the bat guano play calling, the oline, and Kyler running, I don't think Barry Sanders would post decent numbers on this team. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nmartinez12443 558 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, ColoWrex said: Sooo.... didn't look any better than Drake in Drake's role. 30 touches AND involved in the passing game, I'll take that all day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PhilaFanBoy 293 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ColoWrex said: Sooo.... didn't look any better than Drake in Drake's role. Apparently you can only run up the middle as the feature back in this offense. Hardly any toss plays or short passes. Reminded me of how they used Drake. Rather than incorporating Edmonds as the pass catcher he is, they gave him the Drake role. Don't get me wrong, the touches were there, he gave us 88 total yards, and this Miami defense is underrated. Kyler kept them in the game with his legs. I highly doubt Drake will be back right away. They play Buffalo next Sunday and then four days later they play the Seahawks again. Either Drake returns against the Seahawks or we have two more games of Edmonds having the role to himself. Edited November 9, 2020 by PhilaFanBoy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cdd10 1,193 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, LooseLeaf said: With the bat guano play calling, the oline, and Kyler running, I don't think Barry Sanders would post decent numbers on this team. hey now. did you see teams Barry had? lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Evincar 1,680 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, ColoWrex said: Sooo.... didn't look any better than Drake in Drake's role. Drake didnt look good against Detroit and the Jets. Miami's D is legit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martinlongbow 57 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Kenyan Drake is laughing somewhere Chase “ mattison” Edmonds 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cincythunder 52 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Martinlongbow said: Kenyan Drake is laughing somewhere Chase “ mattison” Edmonds bro lol mattison put up 4 points Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brosephd 1,265 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 uncreative run play calling. leadbacks are doomed (DJ, drake, edmonds) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FantasyGuru24 270 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 It’s the midget .. he steals everything 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jrt80 228 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 On 10/27/2020 at 9:31 AM, CharlesCC2 said: The Cardinals utilized him that particular way given that they had Drake to do most of the work. Now that that work needs to be replaced do they benefit more from Edmonds taking a significant portion of it or giving it to a rookie who has barely seen action and doesn't appear to be a world beater. And is there that much of an elevated injury risk from increasing his work load. He may appear small but he's built a lot sturdier given his weight and height than he looks. It just doesn't make sense to me to say Edmonds was being used perfectly when Drake was around therefore that is likely to continue now because he can't handle any more work, with the insinuation that the Cardinals are more likely to give Drake's work to someone who likely won't benefit the team as much from getting it. Damn dude you called it. Chase Edmonds WENT OFF today. You were right, him getting more touches definitely gave him better fantasy production... they clearly weren’t utilizing Him perfect before. I was way off with my prediction of less volume being better for his fantasy outlook.. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KennyWoo 3,301 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 You can't just assume a change of pace and 3rd down back will automatically go off if he becomes the lone wolf. It's easy to say "just take his previous production and add on all the production of the lead guy and that's what we'll get." But to do so indicates that the coaching staff didn't have good reasons for having the COP guy in that role in the first place. 25 carries for 70 yards. That's positively Mixonesque. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJoint 4,051 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Just now, KennyWoo said: You can't just assume a change of pace and 3rd down back will automatically go off if he becomes the lone wolf. I accept that premise but the fact is it happens quite a bit. Edmonds squandered a golden opportunity - it's all on him today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rookieadrian 15 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, nmartinez12443 said: 30 touches AND involved in the passing game, I'll take that all day. Only problem is drake comes back in a week or two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deke 1,915 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Murray gets all the creative run plays 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlesCC2 673 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 55 minutes ago, Jrt80 said: Damn dude you called it. Chase Edmonds WENT OFF today. You were right, him getting more touches definitely gave him better fantasy production... they clearly weren’t utilizing Him perfect before. I was way off with my prediction of less volume being better for his fantasy outlook.. Snarkiness not necessary, but alright. Obviously didn't work out today, so far the evidence would show Edmonds doubters are right. I'd like to see how he fares across multiple games, but since football is extremely reactionary with only getting one body of work per week I can't really argue for now that Edmonds is going to perform as I expected. Happy? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jrt80 228 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, CharlesCC2 said: Snarkiness not necessary, but alright. Obviously didn't work out today, so far the evidence would show Edmonds doubters are right. I'd like to see how he fares across multiple games, but since football is extremely reactionary with only getting one body of work per week I can't really argue for now that Edmonds is going to perform as I expected. Happy? Yes. Consider yourself lucky he even survived the game, getting a grown mans workload. Only a tough football player like Kenyan drake can get those carries without crying. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FantasyGuru24 270 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Is drake comes back next week? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RunCMC 2,351 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) Lmao !! but but Chase he's some much better .... Umm yeah about that. 2.8 YPC . He will never be a feature back , ever . Just here to rub it in a little .. for all the fools coming to the Drake thread talking non-sense. As a change of pace back he's alright. End of story. Edited November 9, 2020 by RunCMC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deke 1,915 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, RunCMC said: Lmao !! but but Chase he's some much better .... Umm yeah about that. 2.8 YPC . He will never be a feature back , ever . Just here to rub it in a little .. for all the fools coming to the Drake thread talking non-sense. As a change of pace back he's alright. End of story. you really want to have posted this? You’re basically calling Drake bad because these are the performances he’s been putting up all year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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