ludawg23 1,982 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, n4sa said: Justin Jackson is a nobody, if eats into anybody's touches it's going to be Ekeler. you’re smoking crack if you think Ekeler’s touches would decrease with a healthy JJ. Ekeler’s role is defined and JJ/Kelley would split the rest of the work as they are the in between the tackle RBs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brosephd 1,273 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 my hope is kelley becomes so dominant, forces coaches hand to just play him 60/40 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BeastOfTheLeast 56 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Jj likely not playing Kelley already seeing significant snaps AND they are playing the panthers without cmc. Flex in the LEAST Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jrt80 228 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Why does eckler get 10+ touches anyway? I haven’t seen a charger game yet, but I got this guy on the waiver 2 weeks ago and therefore I feel he’s superior to every other back on his team. he clearly deserves 25+ touches regardless of game script, otherwise the coach is a clown and should be fired. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JE7HorseGod 2,601 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Kelley has an uphill battle in the sense that he hasn't been particularly efficient with the volume the past few weeks, less Pouncey efficiency might be hard to come by, and Jackson could stand to cut into the volume. THAT SAID, "the Gordon role" or "the Ekeler role" seems to me less applicable without Rivers, whether we're talking Taylor or Herbert starting, because Ekeler is more dynamic in the passing game and neither of them seem as excited to check down as was Phillip. So, I think if Kelley can find a way to more efficiency behind the makeshift offensive line and keep Jackson out of the way, he could have some value. But there are certainly challenges here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
n4sa 684 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, ludawg23 said: you’re smoking crack if you think Ekeler’s touches would decrease with a healthy JJ. Ekeler’s role is defined and JJ/Kelley would split the rest of the work as they are the in between the tackle RBs. Nobodies role is defined in this offense bro. No Rivers/Gordon and now we don't really even know who the starting QB is going to be any given week. Ekeler was being drafted in the 2nd round on the assumption that he was going to be getting his 15-20 touches per game. Which seems to be true but nobody was expecting Kelley to split carries with him 50/50 unless you really believed Kelley was going to be the Melvin Gordon of this offense. If that's the case, Ekeler is going to be the one that takes a back seat just like he did last year and the years before. I personally don't think JJ is going to be much of a factor for either of these guys unless they need a breather. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ludawg23 1,982 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, n4sa said: Nobodies role is defined in this offense bro. No Rivers/Gordon and now we don't really even know who the starting QB is going to be any given week. Ekeler was being drafted in the 2nd round on the assumption that he was going to be getting his 15-20 touches per game. Which seems to be true but nobody was expecting Kelley to split carries with him 50/50 unless you really believed Kelley was going to be the Melvin Gordon of this offense. If that's the case, Ekeler is going to be the one that takes a back seat just like he did last year and the years before. I personally don't think JJ is going to be much of a factor for either of these guys unless they need a breather. Ekeler is their “space”/pass catching guy - that is clear to me given that he excelled in that role last year and he got paid in the offseason. Dude is a top 3 pass catching RB in the league. He will never be a fulltime guy who will tote the rock 25+ times - even he said his body wouldn’t hold up but after 2 games, he averages 20 touches per game and people who drafted in him the 2nd round are hoping for more receptions with those touches. He has been much more efficient than Kelley although Kelley is the clear GL back right now and between the tackles guy. If JJ didn’t get hurt, he would be siphoning work from Kelley. Chargers seem to have a solid defense but we are only two games into the season where game script has been friendly to Kelley’s workload. You will most likely see another game where he gets heavy carries since they are favored. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RunCMC 2,356 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, n4sa said: Nobodies role is defined in this offense bro. No Rivers/Gordon and now we don't really even know who the starting QB is going to be any given week. Ekeler was being drafted in the 2nd round on the assumption that he was going to be getting his 15-20 touches per game. Which seems to be true but nobody was expecting Kelley to split carries with him 50/50 unless you really believed Kelley was going to be the Melvin Gordon of this offense. If that's the case, Ekeler is going to be the one that takes a back seat just like he did last year and the years before. I personally don't think JJ is going to be much of a factor for either of these guys unless they need a breather. Kelley basically caps Ekeler's ceiling of being an RB1. Instead you got yourself an RB2 with high upside. Blows for those who spent a 1st/2nd rounder on him. But that's the reality of it. As far as Kelley goes, I mean we're barely going into week 3 and he's getting a ton of volume already. + Herbert was a nice surprise. They might not be so bad on offense as we all suspected. Fantasy arrow pointing straight up. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjb 808 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 As long as games are close and Josh doesn’t get game scripted out, RB2/Flex weekly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
griffin727 950 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Has there been any point in the first two games where Kelley was left out for a long period because of passing situations (IE two minute drill?)? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guwop 802 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Locked and loaded nice matchup coming Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoho2011 0 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Start over Mixon for Week 3? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoho2011 0 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hoho2011 said: Start over Mixon for Week 3? Sorry, will check over at the Assistant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JE7HorseGod 2,601 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 39 minutes ago, Hoho2011 said: Start over Mixon for Week 3? Oh hell no. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CanaBuc 178 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Debating him McKinnon and Slayton in lot. Behind after Thursday need upside over floor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTo34 2,942 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 8:03 PM, Jrt80 said: Why does eckler get 10+ touches anyway? I haven’t seen a charger game yet, but I got this guy on the waiver 2 weeks ago and therefore I feel he’s superior to every other back on his team. he clearly deserves 25+ touches regardless of game script, otherwise the coach is a clown and should be fired. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Proteus 3,794 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Forced to start like many but I can't believe the way analysts are flipping absolutely FLIPPING over him for this weekend. Feels like a set up for a rage drop. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ffguy0087 1,244 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 38 minutes ago, Proteus said: Forced to start like many but I can't believe the way analysts are flipping absolutely FLIPPING over him for this weekend. Feels like a set up for a rage drop. Huh? Dude got 23 carries last week. He's playing a soft run D as a high volume rusher/goal-line back... and they're favored to win. What's not to like? He's tough to sit unless you're absolutely stacked. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CanaBuc 178 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) In ppr what do we project for him this week? My worry is he will get 18 carries for 86 yards and 50% chance of TD. This is good but worth no receptions is OK in Ppr. By comparison McKinnon another popular play this week might have same number of yardsbut will catch five balls too. In standard I love him though. Edited September 27, 2020 by CanaBuc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
candygram4mongo 136 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I have McKinnon, Jonnu and Kelley and just one starter spot for one of them on my roster. Someone is going to massively blow up while on my bench. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnR 20 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 dude has value.. for me, drafted him as an ekeler handcuff. cant see myself starting both week to week. its a nightmare scenario Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JetsAwesome 638 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, candygram4mongo said: I have McKinnon, Jonnu and Kelley and just one starter spot for one of them on my roster. Someone is going to massively blow up while on my bench. id lean kelley - average 18 touches, goal line work and panthers def gives you a safe floor. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DerrickHenrysCleats 5,838 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Starting over Khunt vs washington in a standard league 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIGFATPANDA 426 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 100 n 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Proteus 3,794 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 11 hours ago, Ffguy0087 said: Huh? Dude got 23 carries last week. He's playing a soft run D as a high volume rusher/goal-line back... and they're favored to win. What's not to like? He's tough to sit unless you're absolutely stacked. I do like. But I wouldn’t be starting him over McCaffrey and Mostert if I didn’t have to, and the certitude of high production in such a small sample size, in a timeshare with an incumbent “stud”, and an offense still finding its identity, is suspect to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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