24/7fantasysports 311 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, lvsaint429 said: If Drake has another “meh” game against that tough WAS front 7, gonna try to get him. The owner wanted Hurst from me on draft day, so if all goes right Sunday for Hurst I’m gonna offer him Mixon/Hurst for Drake/Engram. Think I have a chance at getting that accepted Let me if this trade works out. I think I would have traded Hurst on draft day. I was considering trying to sell higher on Drake if he has another game of 12+ touches and 50+ plus yards with a TD. I would be aiming for a WR1 or 2 in return. Perhaps Amari Cooper or a package type deal with multiple players and me targeting Chris Godwin in return. Edited September 20, 2020 by 24/7fantasysports Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breesus 482 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, cgu112 said: Would u offer conner to get swift? That’s a really good question, if you own Snell I’d say no. If you just own Connor I’d say yes since if Connor goes down or loses his job you have no insurance. That’s a tough decision though imo 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CamNewton 755 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 hours ago, cgu112 said: Would u offer conner to get swift? Hell no. Why would anyone in their right mind want to buy in on a Detroit RB? That situation is going to be a mess from Week 1 to Week 17. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,201 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 46 minutes ago, CamNewton said: Hell no. Why would anyone in their right mind want to buy in on a Detroit RB? That situation is going to be a mess from Week 1 to Week 17. This. Conner for Swift in redraft is a terrible move. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pastorofmuppets2 10,612 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 hours ago, CamNewton said: Hell no. Why would anyone in their right mind want to buy in on a Detroit RB? That situation is going to be a mess from Week 1 to Week 17. ... as opposed to the crystal clear as mud Stillers sitch? 🤔 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rlaalsrb 328 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 hour ago, pastorofmuppets2 said: ... as opposed to the crystal clear as mud Stillers sitch? 🤔 Take steelers rb situation over lions all day every day 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pastorofmuppets2 10,612 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, rlaalsrb said: Take steelers rb situation over lions all day every day sure, on the surface the Stillers lead dog will yield mucho bounty, predicated on that awesome D keeping them in games, and for Teflon Tomlin's penchant for bellcows ... coupled with the Lions absurd failures in said area - no disputing any of that. but it's still up in the air in the 'burgh, and, imo, the kid Swift is the most talented of the trio (Conner/Snell/Swift) 🤷♂️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heizz 90 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Anyone feel a DeVante Parker as a buy low? Only 4x targets in game 1 and Buff matchup this week (possibly out). Was lighting up end of last year. The Parker owner wants my Diontae, might try to negotiate lower though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmcampbe11 751 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 hour ago, pastorofmuppets2 said: sure, on the surface the Stillers lead dog will yield mucho bounty, predicated on that awesome D keeping them in games, and for Teflon Tomlin's penchant for bellcows ... coupled with the Lions absurd failures in said area - no disputing any of that. but it's still up in the air in the 'burgh, and, imo, the kid Swift is the most talented of the trio (Conner/Snell/Swift) 🤷♂️ Have the Lions committed to a legitimate bell cow running back since Barry Sanders? I hope you're just playing devil's advocate because comparing these two backfield situations is pretty ridiculous. Trading a healthy Conner (at this point) for Swift would be an over the top defensive move. Sometimes you're just better off holding, even if that means going down with the ship. If Conner owners want to make a defensive move it should be trying to trade for Snell before today's game. For example, I just offered Michel for Snell this morning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmcampbe11 751 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 8 hours ago, cgu112 said: Would u offer conner to get swift? No. This move is wayyyyyyyyyyy too defensive. If you're that worried try to trade for Snell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pastorofmuppets2 10,612 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, jmcampbe11 said: Have the Lions committed to a legitimate bell cow running back since Barry Sanders? I hope you're just playing devil's advocate because comparing these two backfield situations is pretty ridiculous. Trading a healthy Conner (at this point) for Swift would be an over the top defensive move. Sometimes you're just better off holding, even if that means going down with the ship. If Conner owners want to make a defensive move it should be trying to trade for Snell before today's game. For example, I just offered Michel for Snell this morning. did you not read my effin' post? I ALLOWED TO EVERY POINT YOU JUST MADE! my take is that Swift is the most talented, if you disagree, whoooooop de friggin' doooo! comprehension, give it a whirl, why don'tcha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmcampbe11 751 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 On 9/17/2020 at 8:40 PM, this guy right here said: Barkley / Mixon wet the bed. Would their owners take 80 cents on the dollar? Would NO ONE trade a ,number whatever round they wee drafted, pick? I get it. In your mind PLAYER have one bad game PLAYER loses all value. Good luck with that. Bad comparison. I think A LOT of people were skeptical of Ekeler's first round value going into the season in large part because he's relatively new to this level of production and the fact that his QB situation is COMPLETELY different this season. Add his poor start / lack of use in game one and that makes him a buy low candidate (if you believe) not a sell high candidate. No one is going you first round value for him right now because they shouldn't have to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmcampbe11 751 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) On 9/17/2020 at 8:40 PM, this guy right here said: Barkley / Mixon wet the bed. Would their owners take 80 cents on the dollar? Would NO ONE trade a ,number whatever round they wee drafted, pick? I get it. In your mind PLAYER have one bad game PLAYER loses all value. Good luck with that. Sorry for the repeat post. Having trouble with my wifi. Mods, please delete this one. Thanks. Edited September 20, 2020 by jmcampbe11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmcampbe11 751 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, pastorofmuppets2 said: did you not read my effin' post? I ALLOWED TO EVERY POINT YOU JUST MADE! my take is that Swift is the most talented, if you disagree, whoooooop de friggin' doooo! comprehension, give it a whirl, why don'tcha. Maybe, but it really came across as if you were advocating the trade. Unfortunately talent means nothing without opportunity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmcampbe11 751 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 If I owned Tyler Boyd right now I'd be offering him for every top WR (that I believe in) that struggled in Week 1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pastorofmuppets2 10,612 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, jmcampbe11 said: Maybe, but it really came across as if you were advocating the trade. Unfortunately talent means nothing without opportunity. fair enough, but i made it quite clear that the Lions have been "absurd failures" in establishing a sled dog. as far as talent, yes - situation trumps it in this gig, agreed 100% but i feel this kid Swift is about to carve out a very sweet niche. would i trade Conner for him atm? yes. agree to disagree, so be it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmcampbe11 751 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, pastorofmuppets2 said: fair enough, but i made it quite clear that the Lions have been "absurd failures" in establishing a sled dog. as far as talent, yes - situation trumps it in this gig, agreed 100% but i feel this kid Swift is about to carve out a very sweet niche. would i trade Conner for him atm? yes. agree to disagree, so be it. If we're just looking at rookie RBs I personally wouldn't take any less than Taylor or Gibson for Conner right now. I would need more than a "hunch" to justify parting with a 3rd round pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pastorofmuppets2 10,612 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, jmcampbe11 said: If we're just looking at rookie RBs I personally wouldn't take any less than Taylor or Gibson for Conner right now. I would need more than a "hunch" to justify parting with a 3rd round pick. that's "sunk cost fallacy" 101 - his propensity for injury, the Snell spectre looming ... he's not long for returning that draft capital. i like the kid, he's one of the good guys in this leeg ... but this ain't 2018 any longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
owenmills 5,326 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, jmcampbe11 said: Have the Lions committed to a legitimate bell cow running back since Barry Sanders? I hope you're just playing devil's advocate because comparing these two backfield situations is pretty ridiculous. Trading a healthy Conner (at this point) for Swift would be an over the top defensive move. Sometimes you're just better off holding, even if that means going down with the ship. If Conner owners want to make a defensive move it should be trying to trade for Snell before today's game. For example, I just offered Michel for Snell this morning. First of all, comparing tendencies across different coaching regimes is pointless, since it's the coaches that dictate that. Not the franchise. But if you want to do that I think they have tried multiple times. Wasn't Jahvid Best being featured pretty heavily before he started getting knocked out? More recently all signs pointed to them wanting to do that with Kerryon too except he can't stay healthy. Edit: Thought of another one after I posted. Pretty sure Kevin Smith was featured before Best came along, before injuries derailed his career as well. Edited September 20, 2020 by owenmills Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cgu112 218 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 6 hours ago, ajs723 said: This. Conner for Swift in redraft is a terrible move. I thought so. Just makin sure lol. I was trying to think of high upside rbs since I dont need them right away. Dobbins owner said no. Not many I can think of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmcampbe11 751 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 For discussion. After week 1 and the week 2 Thursday night game... Buy Lows Ekeler AJ Green OBJ Hilton Sell Highs Mostert Hines Boyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cgu112 218 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, pastorofmuppets2 said: that's "sunk cost fallacy" 101 - his propensity for injury, the Snell spectre looming ... he's not long for returning that draft capital. i like the kid, he's one of the good guys in this leeg ... but this ain't 2018 any longer. Ya this is my fear. If conner Has another stinker, gets/ looks hurt, or snell has a big role then ill get nothing for him next week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmcampbe11 751 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, pastorofmuppets2 said: that's "sunk cost fallacy" 101 - his propensity for injury, the Snell spectre looming ... he's not long for returning that draft capital. i like the kid, he's one of the good guys in this leeg ... but this ain't 2018 any longer. Overreact much? It's one game and Conner is 25 frickin' years old. There's no reason to think he won't produce if he's healthy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pastorofmuppets2 10,612 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jmcampbe11 said: act much? yes. i don't wait for the wheels to fall off. is there a shot he returns his capital? of course. i'm betting against it. case. closed. Edited September 20, 2020 by pastorofmuppets2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmcampbe11 751 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, cgu112 said: Ya this is my fear. If conner Has another stinker, gets/ looks hurt, or snell has a big role then ill get nothing for him next week. ...like I said, sometimes the best move is not move and you're better off going down with the ship. A healthy Conner has a MUCH higher ceiling in 2020 than a healthy Swift. And I'd argue that the risk isn't that much different between the two. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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