Johnnyapplebot 1,484 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just noticed in the 2019-2020 thread a lot of complaints about Beal throughout the season. He did end up providing 1st round value and now with Wall demanding a trade its safe to draft him 7-10? Or are those complaints from last season warranted? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jay_00 241 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Johnnyapplebot said: Just noticed in the 2019-2020 thread a lot of complaints about Beal throughout the season. He did end up providing 1st round value and now with Wall demanding a trade its safe to draft him 7-10? Or are those complaints from last season warranted? I had Beal, he was awesome. It was frustrating mid season, but the man balled the heck out especially when covid hit. He was on an absolute tear and on pace to be top 5 when they cancelled the season. If Wall is gone then hes easily a first round guy again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkpotato 1,050 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) He gon eat. I think I would take him over Tatum at the turn. Edited November 21, 2020 by sharkpotato 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnyapplebot 1,484 Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 I just saw the wizards signed Robin Lopez. Bad news for Beal he’s going to cut into his touches. Maybe an uptick in assists though but his usage rate will take a hit. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkpotato 1,050 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnnyapplebot said: I just saw the wizards signed Robin Lopez. Bad news for Beal he’s going to cut into his touches. Maybe an uptick in assists though but his usage rate will take a hit. Yikes. Gonna have to bump his value down to the 3rd round after this move. Ugh.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 1,272 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Roto guys about to drop the usual shutdown candidate blurb once Wall is dealt. But seriously if he stays healthy he should challenge Harden for the scoring title Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan 998 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 4 hours ago, DonutGiveUp said: But seriously if he stays healthy he should challenge Harden for the scoring title Hmmm don't sleep on ma man Book. D. Book with CP3 in the backcourt, match made in heaven. I think he goes for 30 PPG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
My Dinner With Andre 5,701 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 If you recall Rotoworld's writers -- the "top" analysts, not just the blurb writers -- were advocating selling Beal all year long due to shut-down fears. Everyone in the fantasy community has the same information nowadays so the talk actually depressed Beal's market value imo. Think if you bought you could have got a pretty good price. Then Beal ended up doing this over his last 23 games (no missed games either): It was one of the more egregious Rotoworld misreads imo 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedDogNamedClippers 2,204 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Keep in mind though, Beal surprisingly was also healthy and that Wizards team was a roller coaster of injuries. Hell, even Gary Payton Jr was being considered waiver wire pickup gold for a while. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROTY 841 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 hours ago, RedDogNamedClippers said: Keep in mind though, Beal surprisingly was also healthy and that Wizards team was a roller coaster of injuries. Hell, even Gary Payton Jr was being considered waiver wire pickup gold for a while. It's not surprising he was healthy. Early in his career he overtrained and his nutrition and recovery was all off and consequently suffered multiple stress fractures. He's changed a lot about how he prepares and recovers and hasnt been significantly injured since 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkpotato 1,050 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, ROTY said: It's not surprising he was healthy. Early in his career he overtrained and his nutrition and recovery was all off and consequently suffered multiple stress fractures. He's changed a lot about how he prepares and recovers and hasnt been significantly injured since Yeah 5-6 years ago he was a DND for me but he's been super durable for the last 4 seasons. He's no longer injury prone in my eyes. Edited November 21, 2020 by sharkpotato Quote Link to post Share on other sites
My Dinner With Andre 5,701 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 4 hours ago, RedDogNamedClippers said: Keep in mind though, Beal surprisingly was also healthy and that Wizards team was a roller coaster of injuries. Hell, even Gary Payton Jr was being considered waiver wire pickup gold for a while. He also had a chip on his shoulder due to the All-Star snub. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buzzerbets 4 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Russel Westbrook speculations scare me. I am considering trading him. If Russ come, Beal will probably fall about ten positions in the rankings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Del Rio 509 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Oof... how much does the Russ acquisition hurt him? A bunch of shots and usage are about to get taken from Beal here. Possibly pushes him down to late-2nd round? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CORTEz 1,073 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Beals value will not suffer. If anything, I think it might actually get better. About the only thing that might hurt Beal a little bit is his overall PPG. Might go from 30 PPG to about 24 or 25 PPG. Wizards need one more nice piece though to be a legitimate Top-5/6 team in the east. Bryant is ok, Bertans is great, but our defense is atrocious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taenggg 1,102 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 PG averaged 28 with WB, I can see Beal following suit. Probably ranked somewhere in the late teens now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob0403 958 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Beal is definitely taking a hit with this one. It's not gonna kill his value but not as amazing as playing beside John Wall who is easing back from long term injury. Definitely a second rounder now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CORTEz 1,073 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 To put it simply.Beal probably falls down the Rankings Board 5-10 spots. Russ probably climbs up the Rankings Board 5-10 spots. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkpotato 1,050 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CORTEz said: Beals value will not suffer. If anything, I think it might actually get better. About the only thing that might hurt Beal a little bit is his overall PPG. Might go from 30 PPG to about 24 or 25 PPG. Wizards need one more nice piece though to be a legitimate Top-5/6 team in the east. Bryant is ok, Bertans is great, but our defense is atrocious. I don't think Beal's PPG will drop off that much. Maybe 27-29 PPG. PG and Harden didn't take the hits that many expected. I'm pretty sure they're going to stagger their minutes so each guy gets to dominate the ball. I think everybody elses value will suffer a lot more now. Guys like Bartans, Bryant won't get the same touches like last season. Edited December 3, 2020 by sharkpotato 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KingDURANTULA 657 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, CORTEz said: Beals value will not suffer. If anything, I think it might actually get better. 9 minutes ago, CORTEz said: To put it simply.Beal probably falls down the Rankings Board 5-10 spots. Solid analysis. Have you considered applying for a job at Rotoworld? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CORTEz 1,073 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, KingDURANTULA said: Solid analysis. Have you considered applying for a job at Rotoworld? Another person taking things too seriously... I was responding to the people who were saying "RIP" to Beals Value. Making it seem like me saying Beals ADP drops 5-10 spots is not me saying "RIP to Beals value". And Russ wanting to be a floor general, has more to do with him Harden being a usage ball-hog than it does with "it being Russ' team". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedDogNamedClippers 2,204 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Beal drops. You have to remember when Westbrook was next to Durant. Westbrook wanted 25 shots and Beal from last year wants 25+ shots. And that’s between two players. Beal is now 2nd rounder and Westbrook is now 2nd rounder from (3rd rounder). Westbrook still turns the ball over just like Wall. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnyapplebot 1,484 Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 Clear as day Beal won’t be a first rounder. Bumping him down to late second rounder 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
My Dinner With Andre 5,701 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 F it, everyone saying Beal’s production takes a hit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DezedandConfused 2,597 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 I'm not worried about Beal or Westbrook to get their stats. Everyone else on the team is a different matter. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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